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Old 07-05-2007, 12:43 PM   #15
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Well one thing we have to remember is it took the club a long time to get where it is and will take a long time to make changes - I learned alot about the club during the whole FCU approval process - I do give them credit for approving our unit - I'm encouranged that things will change over time.

Most of the leadership are older retired folks, us youngins do not have the time to devote to the club as they do - so while we may not agree with the things that are going on at the top - I think anyone on a local level should be encouraged to start a new unit to their liking and have some fun with it.

Yes I was aware of the insurance policy, which is the primary reason I wanted to belong to the WBCCI. I get in trouble everytime I say this - I would not organize a forum rally for that reason - and - to start a new club (501(c)(4) ) would be pretty expensive - so for 56 bucks (in the FCU's case) that really cheap insurance for those of us involved in these rallies.

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Old 07-05-2007, 12:43 PM   #16
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expect to read about a motion to eliminate the mal classification...

we just cause TOO much trouble!

data will be reported that supports this position.

the data tracking on members new, old, cancelled, renewed and so on is comical...

the home office uses one electronic/paper file.

ONE.

last fall i asked that my home address/id info NOT be listed in the directory.

this request was granted.

come annual renewal time, nothing was receieved.

as a matter of fact the bb stopped coming after my 'do not list' request.

turns out they'd just deleted me from the ONE master file.

they couldn't send me the renewal or bb because they do longer had my address!

so i'm a mal who quit, joined again and will need to quit EVERY YEAR

just to have a 'do not list' option in the directory...

dark ages folks...

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Old 07-05-2007, 12:50 PM   #17
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Lost connection

Anyone else lose their connection to the IBT meeting? Mine got sporatic, then just quit. I cannot reconnect.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:51 PM   #18
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Anyone else lose their connection to the IBT meeting? Mine got sporatic, then just quit. I cannot reconnect.
Ditto. Hope there's no problem archiving.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:52 PM   #19
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If you don't want to be listed, just send your payment after December of each year....or whatever the cutoff is for listing....

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Old 07-05-2007, 01:44 PM   #20
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. . .Sounds like the Communications Liason is either dead or is being revamped. . . .(quote) This indicates that the IBT does not like the messages for change, with suggestions offered, that this committee is making. This sounds like their method of operations is "shoot the messenger" and ignore the message. How can they take the low road of avoiding listening and considering suggestions at every opportunity? From their lofty perch, will they always cast off suggestions as being from a discontented few?? They have a survey (where did that end up?) and they have the article by Renee with listed communications ideas that was published in a recent past BB. That should be enough to warrant a "committee" to prioritize and begin working on some needed changes. ~G
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:04 PM   #21
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. . .Sounds like the Communications Liason is either dead or is being revamped. . . .(quote) This indicates that the IBT does not like the messages for change, with suggestions offered, that this committee is making. This sounds like their method of operations is "shoot the messenger" and ignore the message. How can they take the low road of avoiding listening and considering suggestions at every opportunity? From their lofty perch, will they always cast off suggestions as being from a discontented few?? They have a survey (where did that end up?) and they have the article by Renee with listed communications ideas that was published in a recent past BB. That should be enough to warrant a "committee" to prioritize and begin working on some needed changes. ~G
Boy...... talk about shooting the messenger!
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Interesting: Barry Heckenswiler v. Bob Thompson for I3VP

Not so much: 1st mates...
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:10 PM   #23
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Preliminary report:

Discussions are to have a Region person contact every new member that signs up as a MAL to see if they really wouldn't rather join a unit instead of becoming a MAL directly. The drop-out rate (I believe) was mentioned to be 18% for MALs. They believe new timers are far better off in a local unit and more likely to renew.

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Of course anyone joining a fun, exciting, active unit is more likely to stay in WBCCI. But of all the units in the organization, how many fit the bill?
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Welcome First Mates!

After much heated debate the term First Lady has been dropped. It did not fit the spouse of a female officer well.
The original motion was to keep First Lady,
Male spouses would be tittled First Gentlemen
And unmarried partners would be First Mates.

This was amended so that all sposes and partners are now First Mates.

The amended motion passed.
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..This was amended so that all sposes and partners are now First Mates.

The amended motion passed.
now THATs progress!!

way to move the club forward!!!




sheesh. and all you people on the forums can do is grouss and whine. hmph!





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After much heated debate the term First Lady has been dropped. It did not fit the spouse of a female officer well.
The original motion was to keep First Lady,
Male spouses would be tittled First Gentlemen
And unmarried partners would be First Mates.

This was amended so that all sposes and partners are now First Mates.

The amended motion passed.
First Mates....... hell, I sold my boat and bought an Airstream. It's a travel trailer! What garbage!
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Of course anyone joining a fun, exciting, active unit is more likely to stay in WBCCI. But of all the units in the organization, how many fit the bill?
I'd say just a handfill, hope I'm wrong. On the east coast it's NEU and WDCU that are the mavericks dragging the club into the 21st century.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:57 PM   #28
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First Mates....... hell, I sold my boat and bought an Airstream. It's a travel trailer! What garbage!
No, its just the IBT's inner pirate coming out. But seriously, First Mate for every officer's spouse or significant other is more egalitarian and equal across the board than differences of First Lady, which always sounded presumptious to me, First Gentleman, which has a Chippendales ring to it, and First Mates for everyone else. One Region VP made a good point that using First Mate across the board is more welcoming to everyone, and I think he had a subtle but good point there. I like the fact that it eliminates distinctions between all types of couples. I'm all for fewer, not more, distinctions between members in the WBCCI. This is a small but positive step.

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