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Old 07-22-2013, 09:30 PM   #113
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Here is the link to Tim's posting of the recordings from the Huron Meetings.

http://wbcci.org/index.php?option=co...rticle&id=1333
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:47 PM   #114
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Here is another link to the IBT meeting recordings.

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Old 07-22-2013, 10:55 PM   #115
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Dwight,

Thanks, but I don's see the delegates seminar on June 26.

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Old 07-22-2013, 11:06 PM   #116
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There only is one "delegates' meeting". It was on the 29th. Only two major items: Election of International officers and the rejection of the Thor Motorhome amendment. What kind of information are you looking for?
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:24 PM   #117
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Dwight,

There was a delegates seminar on June 26 where the delegates had the opportunity to discuss various items. John B mentioned in the IBT seminar that one of the things holding up the member's questionnaire was comments by the delegates. That was mentioned in the IBT seminar during the report of the ECC committee by Carolyn B.

I also heard that one of the items discussed was the opportunity to "call for the question" about the motorhome motion to eliminate discussion of the motion and immediately bring it to a vote. At the delegates meeting about 10 delegates stood up to be recognized at the beginning of discussion and I assume that they all wanted to "call for the question" as less than 10 delegates voted against the call.

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Old 07-22-2013, 11:39 PM   #118
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I do not think that one was recorded. The seminar was proposed by John B. to allow the delegates to have an opportunity to compromise and further modify the motorhome proposal in a less formal setting. I talked to our rep. and several others, but they said little was accomplished. Using Robert's Rules calling the question cuts off all discussion. This is the same procedure used last year to vote down the proposed new constitution.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:22 AM   #119
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The minutes from IR at Huron are now posted on wbcci.org. Scroll down the bottom of the page.

http://wbcci.org/club-information/ge...info-and-forms

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Old 07-25-2013, 10:58 AM   #120
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:26 PM   #121
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We live smack dab in the middle of Washington State and have seen little to nothing interesting from the Washington Unit (no offense anyone). We have however had an absolute blast with the Oregon Unit, which has a lot more fun without a compound to not camp out in.

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Like Lewster and Zig I also left the WBCCI about that time. In addition to the problems at the National level there are similar issues at the local level. On a rainy December evening I was returning from a trip down the Oregon coast with a friend in a SOB. I decided rather then driving the rest of the way home we could stop at the Land Yacht Harbor. We pulled into the facility and called the person in charge on the intercom at the gate.

I was informed that I could stay but my friend could not. I said my understanding was that as a member of the Washington Unit I was allowed to have a guest. I was told that to have a guest required a written approval signed by the unit president three days in advance. My response was we would both seek other accommodations. As we were looking over our maps the gentleman in charge pulled up to the gate. After some conversation he said we could stay the night this one time. There was only one other rig in the entire guest area. By the way this is how the web site read then as it still reads today. See item 4. http://washingtonunitwbcci.org/ontheroad.html

I will say I have enjoyed camping with the Vintage Club and the Oregon Unit and enjoyed visiting with some of the Washington members but I just refuse to send a check to support such bureaucracy in a social club.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:53 AM   #122
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I do not think that one was recorded. The seminar was proposed by John B. to allow the delegates to have an opportunity to compromise and further modify the motorhome proposal in a less formal setting. I talked to our rep. and several others, but they said little was accomplished. Using Robert's Rules calling the question cuts off all discussion. This is the same procedure used last year to vote down the proposed new constitution.
I am the delegate recognized and making that motion. Many of us believed that the delegates knew the feelings of their membership on the issue and that further debate would cause more division. Debate also brought the possibility of more changes, confusing the issue and the delegates. I will also tell you that there were delegates on both sides of this issue standing to make the same motion.

I hope we can focus on improvements to the club and not on division this year.

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Thank you Smartstream and Goransons for the kind words about the Oregon Unit, we do have fun but still follow the WB rules to keep the IRS and Insurance guys happy. The clubs that are growing in double digits this year are the progressive units so things are changing. Hopefully the MH is dead for a couple years, I don't think it will come out of the IBT, to many progressives in the IBT now. Now we can work on getting International as a members rally and not an early workers rally. It was embarrassing how many early workers they had, and they kept on thanking them. I was an early worker and could have easily come 1 week later, I did come 3 days later than my date to arrive. Next year I will come in 1 week later and all my committee members will come in 2 days early not a week and the powers that be will KNOW this. Also my committee could have mearged with at least 2 other committee's. We could save the WB 30 nights of site fee's @ $20.00 or more, thats $600.00. Enough money to give everyone at the rally rally 1 breakfast. Just adjusting arrival dates for early workers and cutting down on committee's could save at least $50.00 on fees or add more benefits for the rally rally attendees.
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" Now we can work on getting International as a members rally and not an early workers rally. It was embarrassing how many early workers they had, and they kept on thanking them. I was an early worker and could have easily come 1 week later, I did come 3 days later than my date to arrive. Next year I will come in 1 week later and all my committee members will come in 2 days early not a week and the powers that be will KNOW this. Also my committee could have mearged with at least 2 other committee's. We could save the WB 30 nights of site fee's @ $20.00 or more, thats $600.00. Enough money to give everyone at the rally rally 1 breakfast. Just adjusting arrival dates for early workers and cutting down on committee's could save at least $50.00 on fees or add more benefits for the rally rally attendees"

When I asked a former international President about all of the early workers and how the "True Rally" is over before the the members arrive , his wife told me that I should become an early worker to get in on the fun !!

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Old 07-27-2013, 08:29 AM   #125
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The Leadership's inability to act on the obvious is just one more indication of either their lack of ability or the fact that they just don't care about the membership. Your choice.
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The Leadership's inability to act on the obvious is just one more indication of either their lack of ability or the fact that they just don't care about the membership. Your choice.
Bingo! In my opinion the WBCCI has become about nothing but the present and past leadership. But yet, they wonder why membership and participation is so low.
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