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07-16-2009, 09:58 PM
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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Since he owns the site he has access to all the members info like emails to offer to sell Airstreams.
Anyone care to sign up there, in fact it looks pretty quite, wonder if Greg is also a moderator???
Not a good idea sounds like a conflict of interest which Wbcci should sever perhaps.
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Bob
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07-16-2009, 10:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LI Pets
Since he owns the site he has access to all the members info like emails to offer to sell Airstreams.
Anyone care to sign up there, in fact it looks pretty quite, wonder if Greg is also a moderator???
Not a good idea sounds like a conflict of interest which Wbcci should sever perhaps.
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Bob,
I have signed up over there, as have others on this forum. The forum is quiet, but then it has only been online since the beginning of this month.
Hard to tell if he is a moderator, since so many of those registered do not use their name but a screen name.
I thought in listening to the IBT meetings and discussions that the WBCCI had severed its relationship regarding the hosting of the site, but not the services provided by his company. But then I am not a computer expert.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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07-16-2009, 10:42 PM
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Trailerite
1971 23' Safari
Riverton
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 65
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Do you think it's a coincidence that 5 of the 8 Airstream ads are from Charlotte, North Carolina, where Gibson is supposed to be from?
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07-16-2009, 11:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,169
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Another stroke of marketing genius . . .
by my beloved club, the WBGCI (Wally Byam Grievance Club International). Spend months developing a revised member chat forum,then put in charge of it a trigger-happy new member who files grievances against club members who post there. A sure-fire formula for growing membership and encouraging participation.
I've declined invitations to sign up. The former club chat room was pretty dull, but the new one has quickly become toxic. Count me out.
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Fred Coldwell, WBCCI #1510, AIR #2675
Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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07-16-2009, 11:59 PM
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#25
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vlamica
If some of us were ever planning on joining up with WBCCI, threads like this one would surely turn us off. Im certain Wally didnt plan for this outcome..
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Hi, reason number ten thousand for not joining this club. I think this club needs to close, file chapter 11, and let the tax payers take over. Is this really a club or a foreign dictatorship?
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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07-17-2009, 04:35 AM
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#26
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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Is there a smilie ecomotion for shooting yourself in the foot? How about in the head? More turn offs to a formally club happy camper.
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07-17-2009, 07:19 AM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
Is there a smilie ecomotion for shooting yourself in the foot? How about in the head?
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Well, there's this one, it's close:
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Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
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07-17-2009, 07:21 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, reason number ten thousand for not joining this club. I think this club needs to close, file chapter 11, and let the tax payers take over. Is this really a club or a foreign dictatorship?
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Well, that sorta worked for General Motors...
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07-17-2009, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 47WeeWind
by my beloved club, the WBGCI (Wally Byam Grievance Club International). Spend months developing a revised member chat forum,then put in charge of it a trigger-happy new member who files grievances against club members who post there. A sure-fire formula for growing membership and encouraging participation.
I've declined invitations to sign up. The former club chat room was pretty dull, but the new one has quickly become toxic. Count me out.
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Then again, we don't even really know if any grievances were filed. This could all be a hoax cleverly contrived to exploit the weaknesses of both WBCCI and Airstream Forums.
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07-17-2009, 08:14 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari
Jasper
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 107
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If you won't bother to edit it, I don't care to read it
Dear LIPETS
If you don't want to take the time to make your post understandable,
I don't see why I should waste my time to try and understand it.
I made it through a couple of paragraphs and can't make any sense of it.
Please don't waste our time with junk like this.
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07-17-2009, 08:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1970 23' Safari
2005 30' Classic
1986 31' Sovereign
Lorain
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,645
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OK, so that was rather harsh.....
Would you say that to him sitting at a campfire?
My decision to join or not join the WBCCI is being based on many things, including threads like this. I welcome his effort. I do hope it can be cleaned up some though
I guess I'm one of those "part of the solution" kind of guys.
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07-17-2009, 08:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1998 31' Excella 1000
1979 23' Safari
Mooresville
, Indiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 596
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Just because it's filled doesn't mean it will be heard, or acted on.
Lets hope cooler heads prevail and this subject will be dropped. Everyone involved was just trying to make the new WBCCI forum a success.
Damon
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07-17-2009, 08:52 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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It looks to me like the original .pdf was run through a cheap OCR and all the formatting was lost.
There's some mud-slinging here about drunken nut-jobs. I think it's because the original document was made to look sloppy and ridiculous by a poor job of text conversion.
May the original grievance .pdf can be added as an attachment, rather than trying to convert it to text?
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07-17-2009, 09:15 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 28' International CCD
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 93
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It's pretty simple, folks…
If you don't like or can't deal with the formatting of the message, just move along. No need to call it "junk" if you only made it through two paragraphs.
Oh, and have a nice day!
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07-17-2009, 09:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 27' Safari
Kent
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 806
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LI Pets
Perhaps the time has come to put an end to all this frivolous stuff.
How about starting a legal Defense Fund to get them in a competent court of law to interpret the bylaws etc.
Going directly to club will not work, I spent a lot of time last year on Leo's last frivolous grivience this is out of hand need I mention Bob Thompson??
It would take about $2500-3500 to get started.
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While I neither agree, or disagree, and plead ignorance to trying to read this article, for the only reason of I do not have a law degree, but need one to understand it.
I wanted to comment on one thing... Where in America can we or anyone find a "Competent court" I personaly dont think they are out there. Lord knows especially not in family law, injury law, or any other law I have read articles on. America is in trouble, at the very core.
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07-17-2009, 11:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 713
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul&Dee
Dear LIPETS
If you don't want to take the time to make your post understandable,
I don't see why I should waste my time to try and understand it.
I made it through a couple of paragraphs and can't make any sense of it.
Please don't waste our time with junk like this.
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Rather rude wouldn't you say? Maybe the poster doesn't know how to clean up the text. We would all be better served if a little help was offered rather than just slinging insults.
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07-17-2009, 05:15 PM
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#37
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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Rude is an understatement, I can't reply to that comment as I would like to.
I'm getting another version of the 3 complaints, and will forward them to Janet or who ever to edit my original posts
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07-17-2009, 05:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul&Dee
Dear LIPETS
If you don't want to take the time to make your post understandable,
I don't see why I should waste my time to try and understand it.
I made it through a couple of paragraphs and can't make any sense of it.
Please don't waste our time with junk like this.
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I'd be grateful if you would not waste my time with comments like that.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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07-17-2009, 05:41 PM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Is this for real?
Quote:
Originally Posted by LI Pets
I'm getting another version of the 3 complaints, and will forward them to Janet or who ever to edit my original posts
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Bob,
Can you tell us where you got these? Greg? Leo? Tim? An undercover agent at Jackson Center?
Do you know if these have actually been filed, or are even going to be filed?
I'm wondering if we are all being played for fools here. Note that all three of the alleged defendants are principals of SaveWally.org, and there's not a word about it over on that web site.
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07-17-2009, 06:27 PM
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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They were filed according to one of the complainants.
As far as posting on Save Wally I can't say, but I have these complaints as original copies--- no undercover agents involved.
With pending hearings and possible litigation I'm limited in what I disclose in a public forum.
If you have specific questions or information to help the accused please PM me.
IMO this guy presented himself to Charlie Burke & Wbcci as web expert , they bought it!
Several people exposed some facts and issues that left him in bad light so in retaliation .........................
He's is using the club and the ethics / grievance committee as his personal tool to champion his own agenda in tarnishing these three innocent members.
It is my understanding his membership expired the same day he filed 2 of the 3 grievances, but he renewed on the spot
Hopefully the EGC sees through this sham and dismisses all of them.
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