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Old 12-27-2009, 04:53 AM   #309
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Originally Posted by SilverCabin View Post

Working for change from within,

I have heard this statement many times over. Could you tell me how it is you are changing things? I would like to see an example of how people are actually making these "changes from within". With the exception of Leo(who's actions have gotten him nearly booted a few times now) and Bob Thompson(who's near booting was stopped by a huge email campaign) I have seen virtually zero effort put forth by members to institute change. The act of paying your dues is saying it is okay how they spend it. Paying your dues shows support to those within. You do not kill poison ivy by giving it water, you kill it by starving it of the nutrients that keep it alive.

Now I did not mean to single Randy out, but he used that magic phrase again like so many have. Be sure that if you say you are working for change from within that you actually are putting it into action and not just sitting back and waiting for someone else to make this miraculous "change from within" happen.

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Old 12-27-2009, 05:37 AM   #310
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:50 AM   #311
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Communist Party: The is Politburo selected by the Central committee
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Communist Party: Ranking members get perks such as special homes, shopping in special stores, and so forth.
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WBCCI: Dissenters get kicked out to silence any unpleasant observations.

Communist Party:The party is the court system
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Communist Party: Finally collapsed under the strain of unsustainable finical policy, disregard of human dignity, and refusal to change in response to objective reality over ideology.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:35 AM   #312
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:00 AM   #313
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:06 AM   #314
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:13 AM   #315
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Gene, you mean водка? Let the водка flow?

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Old 12-27-2009, 10:18 AM   #316
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:48 AM   #317
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Gene, you mean водка? Let the водка flow?
At least I can spell gin in its native language.

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Old 12-27-2009, 11:02 AM   #318
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:54 AM   #319
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Old 12-27-2009, 01:11 PM   #320
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What should a new club be?

Originally Posted by JimGolden View Post
Dear Rob (RobandZoe)

Would you allow Avion owners to take part in your new club?
I believe that it would go a long way toward good will if you were to let in other silver trailers, like: Avion, Silverstreak, Streamline, Bowlus, Curtis Wright, etc.

Where you could differentiate between your new club and Tin Can Tourists is that you'd restrict it to only silver trailers, but of all persuasions.

Do this, and I will join.

Otherwise, guess it'll be Good Sam's and TCT for me

See ya on the road whilst pulling my 34' Avion triple axle,
You make a very good point.

Should a new club be inclusive or exclusive?

Making a new club inclusive would allow anyone to become a member.

Making a new club exclusive would perpetuate more of that which already exists; Airstream OWNERS only need apply.

As for me, give me a club that is inclusive of people who care about the organization and want to contribute towards its success; that should be, IMNSHO, the only requirement for membership.

If a new club is to be exclusive and limit who can become a member, I'm not much interested in participating. I experience too much of this in other areas of my life as it is.

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Old 12-27-2009, 01:49 PM   #321
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I agree. The only requisite should be an interest in Airstreams.

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Old 12-27-2009, 02:31 PM   #322
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name for club

They already have a Good sam Club that allows all types in the club.

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