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Old 12-23-2009, 11:53 AM   #239
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And thus rendering himself powerless to effect change from within.

But obviously not powerless to affect change.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:53 AM   #240
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As one of my many duties, I chair a regulatory commission governing cable television service. The local provider is Comcast, a company with a worse reputation for customer service than the IRS or the Postal Service. (I can provide a citation, if you wish). Over the years, I've met with a number of corporate liaisons. Every one of them admitted Comcast had "some problems" but they all ardently claimed they were "working for change from the inside."

If I had to pick one word to describe all of this "effecting" change it would be...

Comcastic.
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If I had to pick one word to describe all of this "effecting" change it would be...

Comcastic.
Maybe Bombastically Comcastic.

Usually, internal Corporate problems are discussed at a happy hour.

But, they must get happy after a problem surfaces, you know, another round, until all the problems just float away.

Or so it seems.

It's amazing what a company can get away with, when they have out grown their britches. But.......their working on it!!!!! Working on what???? The problem..........or the next round????

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Old 12-23-2009, 12:13 PM   #242
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And thus rendering himself powerless to effect change from within.
Thanks Rich the viking..(love that handle) and change will be affected.....

Dave, you'd really send a message if you went to Gillette, did not stay where the IBT has already paid large sums of money, do not give them your $500 and then go into the meetings like you say, and stand there at the door with a sign... by giving them their $$$$, they're just gonna laugh at you... and like my little kids say - walk by with their fingers forming the W - Whatever!

The WBCCI needs some competition.... in due time, there will be an alternative.

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Old 12-23-2009, 01:53 PM   #243
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And thus rendering himself powerless to effect change from within.
Sometimes change from without becomes more effective. Voting with the dollar has been a capitalistic method of voting. And it will get attention.

Look at ...
American Motors Corporation (AMC)
Washington Mutual
Bear Stearns
Montgomery Ward

Heck even GM suffered and filed for protection via the bankruptcy courts, leaving share holders with pretty pieces of paper worth nothing.

When organizations do not change with the people they serve, the people they serve leave for another organization that will serve them. And those people will pay to be served.

>>>>>>>>>>>>Action - a former red number member
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I've decided to remain a member of the WBCCI. I, also, am not real happy with the current hierarchy of the Club, but I believe that change is on the horizon. I am hoping that the dues increase will not pass. It is still only a proposal.

Lucy likes her big red numbers, and would feel naked without them. We also like the Airstream-only or WBCCI Campgrounds. That benefit alone pay most of our dues.

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What a sad story, Rob we are going to miss you to say the least. Sorry I was late getting to the party but other more life important things have been going on. GO NAVY, beat Army again. I fully undstand Rob's feelings and he will always be the first guy I call when I need (yes, need) another Airstream in the lot. Been there just like you Rob as you know, but I'm hanging in till the end. Yes, the club will expire if it continues on its present course, and it will, but I love our Unit friends and most of the grass roots traditions and I always wanted RED NUMBERS since I saw my first Airstream in 1965. YES! Love those red numbers. We love our friends, Happy Hour and Pot Luck Dinners. Merry Yule and Happy Holidays.
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Thanks everyone!

Thanks Rick, Thanks Hamp! Thanks Action! Thanks everyone for your support.. and to those who disagree - I respect your position too.

Well, good news.. I was big time on the fence of renewing this year but was convinced too anyway.. so, last week when I resigned, I thought my $55 this year was a sunk cost of doing what I'm doing... and I was kind of irritated with myself giving the IBT a free $55 to plunder away.. but alas, good news.

I requested my dues refund from corporate and got acknowledgement today that after the first of the year, my refund will be on it's way.

"If you are on the fence because you already paid your dues this year, and I know many of you are after hearing from you, and think, well, I've already paid for 2010 - what am I to do? You too can act now and have a direct impact!

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So we are looking for a way to get the attention of the 90% of the WBCCI that are out there in the dark.

What is the first thing any WBCCI Airstreamer looks for when he see a trailer come at him on the road or walks by in a campground. Those RED NUMBERS.

I am ordering BLUE Forum Numbers for my trailer and will place then above my Red numbers. Just think of the impact if 10 or 15% of the members pulling into Gillette had Blue numbers, other than being backed in the out back, what impact that might stir up.

No I will not be at Gillette but my trailer will be on the road often. Do you think I won't get a conversation or two started with them up there?

Rob I just hope you pick Blue for the numbers once you get things going. I be there early but won't even ask for a low number, I keep 3144.
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What is the first thing any WBCCI Airstreamer looks for when he see a trailer come at him on the road or walks by in a campground.

... hope you pick Blue for the numbers once you get things going.

Howie, 13 PANELS to your first question...

Your second question - Hmmmm... maybe flourescent orange or hunter's burnt orange!
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So we are looking for a way to get the attention of the 90% of the WBCCI that are out there in the dark.

What is the first thing any WBCCI Airstreamer looks for when he see a trailer come at him on the road or walks by in a campground. Those RED NUMBERS.

I am ordering BLUE Forum Numbers for my trailer and will place then above my Red numbers. Just think of the impact if 10 or 15% of the members pulling into Gillette had Blue numbers, other than being backed in the out back, what impact that might stir up.

No I will not be at Gillette but my trailer will be on the road often. Do you think I won't get a conversation or two started with them up there?

Rob I just hope you pick Blue for the numbers once you get things going. I be there early but won't even ask for a low number, I keep 3144.
Howie.

How about a "reflective blue" ?

That would surely out do the red.

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Rob and Frank, et al. I have watched Forums for a couple of years and I have never seen a subject gather more attention this quickly. (Even more that "Corrosion and Filiform"). Come to think of it, they are on the same subject, just that now the direction is the corrosion of the IBT. After reading all of this thread, it appears that you have hit a nerve. I'm glad that you got tired to being given the mushroom treatment. I remember reading a post by CHIEF a few months ago about his unit. He also had problems with the established garrision. Like you, by being contrary, you would have thought you guys robbed the nuns of the orphan fund.
From what I read on this subject, more power to you.

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So we are looking for a way to get the attention of the 90% of the WBCCI that are out there in the dark.

I am ordering BLUE Forum Numbers for my trailer and will place then above my Red numbers. Just think of the impact if 10 or 15% of the members pulling into Gillette had Blue numbers, other than being backed in the out back, what impact that might stir up.

Just imagine what an impact if 10 or 15% of the members pulling into Gillette, DIDN"T GO!!!
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Just imagine what an impact if 10 or 15% of the members pulling into Gillette, DIDN"T GO!!!
Right... 200 short at Madison netted greater than a $100k loss, 400 short in Gillette would be a catastrophic disaster and result in massive change!
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Think about this - on these forums, the most contentious issues are the WBCCI issues - nothing I can think of brings about such discontent and heated discussions (except the hitch comparison threads).
Once WBCCI has faded into the dust, these forums will be even better still...
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