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Old 12-21-2009, 04:39 PM   #169
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I am always curious when people make comments about the Club. Do they belong? Are they just non-Airstream bystanders? Are they Airstream owners?

Gene Crawford isn't currently listed in the Directory.
These are public forums, Gene has every right to comment and whats more, his comments consistently add to the quality of the discussions.
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:40 PM   #170
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If it's important you could send him a message. Otherwise you don't need to be a member of the Club (WBCCI?) to make a comment.

If you want a closed forum, visit the WBCCI members only pages.
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:56 PM   #171
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IMHO,
if forum members make comments (especially critical) about the WBCCI , you would think or assume that they are current or former members?

Otherwise the comments made do not have that much validity.

Right??
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Old 12-21-2009, 04:58 PM   #172
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I am always curious when people make comments about the Club. Do they belong? Are they just non-Airstream bystanders? Are they Airstream owners?

Gene Crawford isn't currently listed in the Directory.
He doesn't have to be listed in the "Directory". He is a member of this Forum, a group of Airstream owners, and as such may comment to his hearts content.
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Right??
Makes total sense to me.
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:11 PM   #174
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That makes sense like saying only Democrats should comment on Health Care Reform, or only Republicans should comment on bailing out the banks.
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IMHO,
if forum members make comments (especially critical) about the WBCCI , you would think or assume that they are current or former members?

Otherwise the comments made do not have that much validity.

Right??

I disagree.
There are many, like me, who were seriously considering joining the club, but after reading more about the politics of the IBT have changed their minds. By non-members voicing our opinions, we highlighting the number of potential members who are turning away due to the inner workings of the WBCCI.

Don't get me wrong, I do not wish for the demise of the WBCCI. I hope that the club survives and more importantly I hope it evolves into an organization I would take pride in joining.
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I think the point of Pee Wee's original question is how can someone comment on something or an experience they have not had. The comments can only ring hollow.
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Simple.... they are highlighting the fact that unless the club changes they will most likely not join. And if the club is unsuccessful in attracting new members, it will not prevail in the long run. That's all.....
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I am always curious when people make comments about the Club. Do they belong? Are they just non-Airstream bystanders? Are they Airstream owners?

Gene Crawford isn't currently listed in the Directory.
Really? This thread has deteriorated to the point where you have to be a member of WBCCI to comment on insurance? Seriously? Talk about lots of procedure and rules!

Since I'm not currently listed in the Directory (joined very recently), but I own an Argosy (not quite an Airstream?), I'm not sure I can post on this privately-owned forum that has no ties to Airstream or WBCCI. But I'll take the chance anyway...

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If we had to be a member of something or had to be there to know about it, no one could express any opinion about anything that happened during the American Revolution or the Civil War, for example. You could have no opinion about a car you hadn't owned and couldn't consult Consumer Reports about what to buy. But we can read about these things, weigh the opinions of others and come to our own opinions. It is possible to draw on life's many experiences to see parallels between failing organizations and the ways they fail.

In Post 103, Pee Wee, you wrote "I never mention names, only situations." It appears that has changed.

And technically you didn't mention my whole name, but where I live.

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These are public forums, Gene has every right to comment and whats more, his comments consistently add to the quality of the discussions.
Did someone post that Gene did not have the right to comment.? No. PeeWee just posted that he was curious about people who post here and that Gene was not in the directory. Nothing more.
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I am always curious when people make comments about the Club. Do they belong? Are they just non-Airstream bystanders? Are they Airstream owners?

Gene Crawford isn't currently listed in the Directory.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please: I don't believe Genes last name is Crawford, unless his town is named after him, and I don't think it matters if he or anyone commenting here is a member or not. Trying to narrow this discussion to current and/or previous members is an unnecessary distraction from the conversation, AND, if I understand what you all have written here and elsewhere, it is current and former members who have brought the club to this point, right? Not those of us who have yet to join.
I encourage you to read and take the best ideas you can find, regardless of who wrote them. Remember, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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Old 12-21-2009, 06:26 PM   #182
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Did someone post that Gene did not have the right to comment.? No. PeeWee just posted that he was curious about people who post here and that Gene was not in the directory. Nothing more.
If it is that simple why didn't PeeWee list all the people that posted to this thread that are not listed in the WBCCI 2009 directory?

I personally find it hard to speak for anyone. You never really know what point they are trying make. All you can do is speculate. Maybe PeeWee should speak for himself.
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