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Old 03-18-2009, 07:32 PM   #15
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Personally, I don't think age has as much to do with it, as pure snooty stupidity does. Remember, I am a geriatric nurse. I've been to rallys, even the florida state several times, I've been to other rallies, and most of the older people do not like what is going on any more than the young ones do. They just don't bother with the officers, and just go to have fun. For the most part, they go for the companionship, and maybe to learn something new.

To say no old person can hold office, only ones under 45 is ludicrous, and should be considered the same as the old folks saying what they are about voting and all the other dumb stuff that has come up in the last few years.

I sincerely believe the comments in the post #11 was meant as tongue in cheek, at least I hope so. Sorry just my 2 cents worth


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Old 03-19-2009, 11:12 AM   #16
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Wow, another WBCCI thread. What is the goal of all these threads and has it been realized?
I'm not sure I said that clearly. What I meant was—I have read numerous WBCCI threads. They are interesting, up to a point. Some say WBCCI is out of date, failing, authoritarian, etc. Some love WBCCI. Some say "go camping and ignore the leaders". Some are trying to reform WBCCI. Flaming starts after a while—believe me, I know. It seems the same things are being said over and over. While that is temporarily useful group therapy, where does it lead? A lot of people seem to be writing to their own choir.

Real change is a lot of work (another group therapy analogy), but necessary if change is going to happen. Are these threads actually promoting change? Do they reflect ever hardening positions? Real change may have to happen behind the scenes of the Forum, and maybe it is—how would I know? Or is it time to start a new organization for people who want a group with different ways of doing things?


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Old 03-19-2009, 11:52 AM   #17
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The WBCCI Constitution was poorly written and with the non-aroused participating members, it is almost impossible to get it changed. To become a leader with any real input that matters takes 10 years in the club at a minimum and you almost have to be fully retired to really start up the leadership seniority ranks. That makes the usual leaders over 73 and not in the same generation or way of thinking that could bring meaninfull change to the organization. By that time, they are just into enjoying their leadership position and taking bows for the rallies they get to preside over.

I have been in the organization for 14 years and they are still talking intentions of possibly making changes that were discussed 14 years ago and have done almost nothing about actually making any changes. Both myself and my wife have been local unit officers.

The "International" level of leadership seems to have their own circle of friends and they like it that way. Membership benefits are the same as they were 30 years ago and targeted to the fully retired. Membership numbers have continued to go down the drain for 20 years. The leaders do what they want and enjoy. The fake vote, with the only candidates selected by the leaders, guarentees there will be no change.

The non-retired members get their monthly magazine and get all their member benefits from participation in their local units. They pay $55 for the pleasure of the magazine and $10 to $15 unit dues and get much more per dollar from the local, if it and they are active. The non-active locals populated by old timers, that are too old to trailer, and are failing to provide enough rallies and therefore, they can not recuit or keep new younger members. Their old friends keep dieing off and their membership dwindles. Active locals, hold lots of fun rallies and are capable of getting new members, despite the fact that they get nothing from the Region or International level that would have any value to people who are not retired.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:27 PM   #18
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All the postings for the passed 24 hours are true in their remarks,BUT just like ME no one had any ansewer to the problem of how to save the WBCCI.
We need new IDEAS and they are not coming from the old folks that are running the WBCCI, the membership or folks on the forums.
So how do we get new ideas and changes?
With out them may the WBCCI RIP.

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