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Old 12-12-2010, 07:08 PM   #15
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I’m personally not worried, based on the past, I have complete faith in the ability of the IBT/EC7 to form a committee to study this problem too along with many others and we will all be singing around the WBCCI campfire together with cash in the bank, over a 1000 Airstreams with full hookups at each and every International rally while the rally makes a profit of 10% as we all read over our new Constitution and By-Laws.

You go IBT/EC7, you show the naysayers’ what you got planned for the rebuilding of the WBCCI, the International Rally, young families, budget problems, IBT/EC7 members getting mileage and lifetime membership thank you’s, etc…I’ve paid my dues for the year, did so back in the summer, now just waiting for the good times to roll.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:25 PM   #16
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I am afraid that with reasonably low gasoline prices and a centralized location, this low turnout is quite an ominous sign indeed. Couple that with the activities of the past year (kicking out Leo, the forums fumble) and it really looks like a continuation of more BAD NEWS for the club.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:48 PM   #17
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10,000 comics out of work, rideair, and you want to make funny. You should be a ghost writer for the Treasurer. I'm still laughing at his 2011 International Rally budget based on 825 units. Oh, wait, it's not laughter -- it's screaming with shock. Yeah, that's the ticket - - shock. How blind are these people? I do not like to be negative about WBCCI, preferring to stay positive about all the good things WBCCI has to offer like tons of rallies and lots of caravans. But, when I got the Treasurer's report I was shocked at the unrealistic budget. After 713 this year in a cool place like Gillette, declining membership, increased competition, etc., how can they expect 825 next year in the middle of nowhere - DuQuoin, IL? I guess they need some statistics courses where one learns to predict the future from past results. I'm still debating between "unrealistic" and "irresponsible". ( Sigh !! )
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:57 PM   #18
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Quote from the Tres Report question.

"The more members registering and attending the Rally will greatly ease this situation. It is up to you our members to sign up. If you have not registered, please do so ASAP. It will also determine the number of early workers we can support."

May be a dumb question but what kind of support is needed for the early workers? Are they like paid staff?
I am a member of WBCCI but have never been to International and do not plan on going this year.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:11 PM   #19
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"The more members registering and attending the Rally will greatly ease this situation. It is up to you our members to sign up. If you have not registered, please do so ASAP. It will also determine the number of early workers we can support."

May be a dumb question but what kind of support is needed for the early workers? Are they like paid staff?
I am a member of WBCCI but have never been to International and do not plan on going this year.
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If there are enough members signed up the early worker get mints on their pillows each am.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:25 PM   #20
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As I understand it, the campsites at the rally cost the club $15.00. The rally lasts seven days if you are not an early worker. I have been told, but can't confirm . that there is a charge for 13 days camping built into the rally fee.. If correct this would pay for the early workers camping,
This would make sense since the full hook up rallies cost $200. + more than when 3 amp was available, but the actual seven day camping cost would be only $ 105..
In addition they get Pancakes every morning and other perks. Some early attendees also get fancy meals (presidents appreciation dinner etc) at our expense.
We, on the other hand pay $70 a day and don't even get a snack.

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Old 12-13-2010, 02:02 PM   #21
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The 13 days is easily confirmed. Get a copy of the International budget and divide the camp site cost, a separate line item, by 15 and then by then number of budgeted attendees and you get 13 days average. At the July 5 IBT meeting, it was mentioned that WBCCI will only pay for the days occupied and that there is a schedule calculating the number of trailers/motorhomes on site each day. I have requested a copy of that schedule but it has not been provided.

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As I understand it, the campsites at the rally cost the club $15.00. The rally lasts seven days if you are not an early worker. I have been told, but can't confirm . that there is a charge for 13 days camping built into the rally fee.. If correct this would pay for the early workers camping,
This would make sense since the full hook up rallies cost $200. + more than when 3 amp was available, but the actual seven day camping cost would be only $ 105..
In addition they get Pancakes every morning and other perks. Some early attendees also get fancy meals (presidents appreciation dinner etc) at our expense.
We, on the other hand pay $70 a day and don't even get a snack.

Howie, see you at the bash
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:11 PM   #22
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You should be a ghost writer for the Treasurer. I'm still laughing at his 2011 International Rally budget based on 825 units.
Don't blame the treasurer. The rally budget was the work of the International President. I have it on good authority (I can't say who) that he was begged to form a more realistic budget with less front-end loading. Apparently, the IP currently can do pretty much as he pleases regarding the rally budget.
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Old 12-17-2010, 09:40 AM   #23
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It will be reported at the Mid Winter Meeting that as of Dec 2010 there was a net reduction in membership of 414 members.
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It will be reported at the Mid Winter Meeting that as of Dec 2010 there was a net reduction in membership of 414 members.
About a quarter of the no-longer-present were from Region 9.
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Old 12-17-2010, 10:35 AM   #25
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It just goes to show you when a Region Presidents doesn't listen to the membership in his or her Region, then the end result are non-renewal for various reasons. One comes to mind, we have always done it this way.
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As the membership continues to shrink, we committed to $5000 this year and $15000 next year for a marketing firm. To pay this requires the dues of 230 members so to make this a worth while expenditure it has to bring big results.
I am not questioning the competency of the marketing folks, however it seems to me that the proper approach would be to fix the problems the club has instead of spending another $15k for some one to try to convince us that all is wonderful.
There is little or no need for these people. The club already has 6000? potential marketers if they are happy campers. It is hard to promote an organization to potential new members when many of us are trying to decide whether to dump in one more years dues ourselves.
I will be looking forward to hearing the marketing committee report from the IBT.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:40 PM   #27
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A number of non-renewers were the result of their age and not wanting the risk of towing a trailer anymore. A lot of the younger folks are probably scared off by all the bickering back and forth. Just my thoughts.
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A number of non-renewers were the result of their age and not wanting the risk of towing a trailer anymore. A lot of the younger folks are probably scared off by all the bickering back and forth. Just my thoughts.
Duh....yeah....not even considering it.
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