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Old 07-01-2006, 02:16 PM   #15
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Here is some info on flag protocal from the WBCCI Bluebook...



6. Flag Protocol
a. National flags may be displayed outdoors from sunrise to sunset on buildings, on
recreational vehicles and on stationary flagpoles. (1/17/97)
b. National flags may be displayed outdoors at night provided such flags are illuminated by
lighting directed at the flags. (1/17/97)
c. National flags should not be displayed outdoors in inclement weather unless said flags are
of all-weather material. (6/27/05)
d. When two or more national flags are to be flown or displayed together, such flags should
be of approximately the same dimensions and flown or displayed at the same height on
separate staffs. (1/17/97)
e. International flag protocol requires that the host country’s flag be flown in the host
country’s position of honor. When in another country, the national flag of your country
should not be the only national flag you fly or display. When you do not have the national
flag of the country you are visiting, do not fly or display the national flag of your country.
In the latter circumstances, you may fly or display the flag of your state or province and
your flag of office, if any, or an International Board of Trustees approved Unit or Intra-
Club flag. (6/27/05)
WBCCI BLUE BOOK
BYLAWS AND POLICY PAGE - 54.2
ISSUED – 6/27/05

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f. International flag protocol requires that the host country’s flag be flown in the host
country’s position of honor. When in the United States of America and the only national
flag to be flown or displayed is the flag of said country, the position of honor is the center
staff and said staff is higher than the other staffs which may be flying or displaying state
and officer flags. (see Appendix #12) However, when one or more national flags of other
countries are to be flown or displayed with the national flag of the United States, the
position of honor for the latter national flag is on the left as viewed by persons facing the
flags. When one or more national flags are to be flown or displayed with the national flag
of the United States, all such flags should be of approximately the same size and each on a
separate staff and all flown or displayed at the same height. (see Appendix #12) (6/27/05)
When in Canada and only two flags are to be flown or displayed, e.g. the national flag of
Canada and the national flag of another country, or a provincial flag or a flag of office, the
position of honor of the national flag of Canada is on the left as viewed by persons facing
the flags. (see Appendix #12) When three flags are to be flown or displayed the position
of honor for the national flag of Canada is the center staff and when more than three flags
are to be flown or displayed the position of honor for the national flag of Canada is the left
staff. When two or more flags are to be flown or displayed each flag is to be on a separate
staff and all flown or displayed at the same height. (see Appendix #12) (1/17/97)
g. As long as there exists no Mexican Unit of WBCCI, all references to Mexican flags shall
be ignored at all events in the USA and Canada. However, all events taking place
(including caravans) in Mexico require that the following paragraph be followed: 6/27/05)
It is noted that an elected International Officer and Region Officer (whose Region has Club
authorized Units in different countries), is a representative of those members and Units, and
therefore the national flags of the countries represented should be honored equally during
formal opening and closing ceremonies and while on display during the Club authorized
activity that so apply. The United States of America’s Pledge of Allegiance may be
omitted at all Club authorized activities held outside the United States. (1/14/05)
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Old 07-01-2006, 02:16 PM   #16
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Start marking your calendar -- we're on to phase II. ..
Standardizing club voting procedures.

SaveWally was out of pure frustration by being told that this name WILL change .......

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I think that the Save Wally name is totally appropriate for phase II.

Keep Savewally
No name change!


These kinds of changes will ultimately rejuvenate the club. It has to change to stay alive and change usually comes hard. WBCCI suffers from something those of us in the non-profit world call "Founders Syndrome". The old guard just can't comfortably shift gears. They may understand the need to on an intellectual level, but somehow have too much invested in the existing system to ACTUALLY make changes.

So this is how it works; folks who really care, get organized and the old guard gets territorial, they feel threatened. They believe that all they've done and experienced is not valued by the new rabble rouser's. They recognize that the club is broken, but just can't quite figure out how to fix it or are not willing.

The real trick is to remember that all stake holders have the same ultimate goals and motivation (well almost always) - Making the Club a great organization.

So...

I say keep the Save Wally name - - I'm pretty sure if something were broken or needed improvement Wally would be all over it!
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:16 PM   #17
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Actually the flag protocol is pretty standard. It will have been taken from the national protocol codes that deal with it. It is a pet peeve of mine to see a flag improperly displayed or used. However I am not a "flag nazi", if I see a flag being flown improperly I might or might not say something to the person. Most of the time it is a matter of ignorance and not blatant disrespect. As far as personal choice in flags...let 'em fly!

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Old 07-02-2006, 11:38 PM   #18
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As I read in silence ,no posts ,I see the name change is not going to change
anything but the name ,and take away much history of what was when the airstream was concieved and designed by wally byam ,that alone should be
a solid reason to keep the club name. Now all the pompas ,elitist ,stuff ,
the RULES RULES ,flag protocals ,cmon ,That was never the desire of the
airstream club or the caravans .With 42 trailers in cairo you would need numbers on each trailer just to keep everyone identified .The numbers just show you belong ,thats it.Today we want to attend the club ralleys and have FUN ,not all the rigid restrictiveness that goes with it. I like the vintage rallys
and the trips and the fun and the commradery that exists within .The changes need to be in the operation of said club with regaurds to the strict
conformaty and the formalality that exits in todays wbcci .All units ,each one votes and all count and the delegate who represents that unit ,places the units vote to the person or persons that count it .Anyway ,Lots to say ,but
changing the name to the airstream club does what exactly?? I can't see
everything changing ,is everyone going to be thrown out and we all start over ? Changing the name does what I ask?? The ones that want the name
want to preserve I think the essense of what the founder wanted to do.
SEE MORE DO MORE LIVE MORE walley byam .the newer folks with the latest
airstreams want a club to join and have fun ,care less about any history
related to the airstream trailer .So there is the delimma .A vintage club preserving the history and the name ,and the airstream club of today .I llike
the history and the essense tied to it ,but the wbcci does need some repairs.

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Old 07-03-2006, 07:46 AM   #19
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...the newer folks with the latest
airstreams want a club to join and have fun ,care less about any history
related to the airstream trailer .
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Scott -- I agree with most of what you said except for this. Our family isn't vintage, but we would never buy any other camper/trailer than Airstream because we like the design and the history attached to it. We joined WBCCI to be part of the continuing history and because the club with Wally's name still retains his spirit and all the stuff the vintage folks enjoy about getting out with their Airstreams. I think there are probably many of us younger folks with new Airstreams who prefer the vintage mindset within WBCCI over the elitist-Thor-cheerleaders-with-flags mindset (or whatever you want to call it). Maybe we can find room in the vintage group for some of us towing the future vintage trailers. -J
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Old 07-03-2006, 10:44 PM   #20
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Hello dougjamie,

absolutley yes ,Im not for exclusion period .No need to be vintage ,it needs to be airstream .I own a 60 trdwnd ,but when I see a new airstream trailer zipping down the road ,I admit it ...IT brings a smile to my face ,cannot help it.They are the coolest trailers .You are right about the cheerleader thor
wbcci stuff.But thor industries really is not the problem as the club conformaty ,elitist business has been around for quite sometime.You need to
go where you can enjoy your rig and the friends you will make .That was
what wbcci use to be many years ago .Some old photos show wally byam
with a micro phone in hand, no huge ordeal just members joined around .
Another photo where many trailerites (airstream folks) all posing for the camera ,yes had the berets ,but see ,that was part of the belonging to
the group not a military format uniform code .You guys buying a new airstream and getting involved is the future and the only way to promote
the continuing ideas SEE MORE DO MORE LIVE MORE ,in an airstream .
So welcome to the airstream experience!

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Old 07-03-2006, 11:09 PM   #21
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Uh, I do not put on a performance when you meet me in person. I am the same in private, on the internet or in person. Why change to meet other expectations. You only need to change to meet your own expectations.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:40 AM   #22
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Hello 65GT ,

I agree with you and the fact that votes are forsaken as not important is
just not right ,you have said most all that needs to be said in great detail.I
really cannot add much more to what you are saying .It should work as I have posted ,so all the votes per unit are rightfully counted .If they are not
a change of OPERATIONS is needed ,an overhaul . A name change ,cant change ,but the same name along with the history and celebration of the airstream trailer by all members ,with making the needed changes inside the
walls of wbcci to acommodate all members is the only thing that will work .
Abeit ,hard work and not easy ,but necessary .

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