Ed, you must have a vision problem if you can't see that there is a great division in the VAC. I can see that there is never a mention of the vintage rallies in the East. There is never any support or encouragement for anyone trying to promote the vintage rallies in Region 2 or 1. Never a mention in the Vintage section of the Blue Beret.
This Internatioal just showed that for some reason any Vintage from the East are outcast. Don't be suprised if a new camping club springs up among the outcast.
I for one travelled with the WDCU caravan and turned East when they left for Madison.
I'v been there before, not again.
Doug
Vision, I have vision but more importantly I have tolerance. That is what this is all about.
There is no real division, the East is always represented and has always been a force in the VAC. BUT what I think the East does not like is that the rest of us (West, Midwest, Rocky Mtns, etc) has grown as well. You used to be the big dogs but we caught you! I never hear anyone badmouthing the VAC from the East, heck I know a lot of good people from your area.
Promotion is in your hands, I see a lot of rally information from the east, get the info in Bob Herman’s hands and he will get it in the BB. I know when the CB is or the East Coast VAC rally is and I live in WI, how do I get that info? BB, VA, web. So you are getting your info out somehow.
So why do you say the VAC/East is an outcast at this International? Because the DC Unit was parked on pavement? Along with 800 others? It was all in what place you got in line to go in, hay your hero Pee Wee was on grass!.
A new club, COOL, I will join! But I have been hearing this for YEARS!! Fire it up buddy and let’s see what kind of legs this has.
So you never made it to Madison? Then the way I see it, you have no dog in this race. Participate the way I have over the years and then maybe I will listen to what you have to say (complain) about.
Its all about pulling and going to the rally and making your own fun.
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. . . I know both of you guys had your heart in the right place wanting to represent the wdcu the best you could and for that "i thank you very much". I heard you did a great job holdong the flag and would love for someone to post a picture of it. . . .
You look GREAT!!! Glad to see you carried that Black WDCU Flag with pride! No one can ever say your heart is not in the best interest of the WDCU or the WBCCI.
Lets only hope that your "style" of dressing will catch on with the rest of the WBCCI unit leaders going forward. It would be little changes like that, that could start to bring this club back to the days of the past.
Hope to see ya soon,
Daica, thanks for posting that picture and you are welcomed to stay in the driveway next week or the cabin if you want.
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Ed, The area you described as the "Vintage Area" was far from vintage. Unfortunately, the forums will only allow me to upload 10 photos so I could not show you all the units that there was room for. Maybe you can get out your directory and look up the numbers you see and where these folks were from. You might find this rather entertaining and somewhat informative.
Yes "our beloved Pee Wee" did stay on the grass. He was given a trailer by Airstream to stay in and is one of the ones I pictured above. You will recognize it as the the one with plastic still covering the rock guard and the propane tank cover still in bubble wrap. I flew Dale into Pittsburgh and he camped with me on our caravan out to Madison. I was truly fortunate to have spent that time with him and will cherish it my entire life. I flew him in so all of the club members could experience him and learn a little bit from him.
It is a good thing you recruited new members. Perhaps one of them will fill my shoes, for what I experienced is not something I want to be a part of. My membership in the VAC will laps for certain.
As far as "managing your managers" I spoke with your new president and was told "that is how it goes" and "if you are upset, it is your problem not mine"
Like I said, glad you had a good time. I am glad you enjoyed your space on the grass. Your 1988 looked fabulous there. No worries, in four years it will be considered vintage too.
A new club, COOL, I will join! But I have been hearing this for YEARS!! Fire it up buddy and let’s see what kind of legs this has.
You have been hearing it for years and missing the fact that thousands are already in the club. Haven't you noticed the decline in WBCCI membership. Where do you think they go camping???
So you never made it to Madison? Then the way I see it, you have no dog in this race. Participate the way I have over the years and then maybe I will listen to what you have to say (complain) about.
Its all about pulling and going to the rally and making your own fun.
Sorry, your right. I have no dog in this race so I'll leave you now to camp my own way. Thanks for pointing this out. 50 nights in the trailer so far this year and no politcs.
Sorry to hear that your time was not as good as mine, or for that matter the bunch of others I spoke with....................You make of it (the rally) what you are able to.
Ed, none of us on the pavement had a bad time... we all had a great time, making our own fun... as I said "in spite of the International"
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Just like I tell my kids, I'm not here to entertain you, go find fun..............
Problem is... I don't need to pay $415 for the opportunity "find my own fun" If this is the "value" offered by the club, I guarantee that it will keep losing more members than it is gaining.
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And one other point, manage your manager...Scott will do fine as the VAC President
Tried that... and got the response noted in my previous post. Seems to me that if the VAC board is going to disregard the bylaws, it should be for a good result... so far, I would have been just as well off with nobody in charge.
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Originally Posted by Ed Emerick
Sorry to hear that you were on pavement, I been there and done that, still not a real bad deal in my eyes.
For me it was $83 a night for rally hook-ups on asphalt... not a bad deal???? Come on Ed.... you can't really believe that.
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So why do you say the VAC/East is an outcast at this International? Because the DC Unit was parked on pavement? Along with 800 others? It was all in what place you got in line to go in, hay your hero Pee Wee was on grass!.
Ed, how does that work? Our place in line? As I said before... 10 trailers on the the grass... then the WDCU caravan onto the pavement... then 50 more trailers on the grass... sounds like it didn't matter where we got in line. ...and yes, Airstream parked PeeWee on the grass, but because of the good guy he is, he joined us on pavement for some good ole fashion camping fun.
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Sorry you guys had such a bad time but I still stand by my first post..........
Ed, as I (and others) have said... we had a great time... no thanks to anything put on by the WBCCI.
I was excited to see old friends and meet new old friends for the first time.
Dave, we were happy to cross paths with the drag'nwagon clan... We'll definitely be doing the same in the future. Luckily there is something to treat that heartburn.... "camping fun!"
I personally am very glad I went to International. The experience taught me a lot. I once again was taught to listen to my my elders, to learn from them.
I learned a great deal about human nature also. Unfortunately, it was a hard lesson to swallow. It was kind of like Limburger cheese, some people love it and others just think it smells really bad.
I am going to do as Ed told me. He is also my elder. I will just shut up and go camping. But in this volatile time for the club, it won't be at another International. I now understand things much clearer. My eyes are now wide open.
This thread hijacking has been an eye reopening experience. Every time Amy and I think about joining the WBCCI and VAC I read threads like this and think twice. I appreciate what the WBCCI originally stood for, and the spirit that many Airstreamers try and uphold, but I do not believe there is a place for politicking in camping. I have been to Airstream events that I have such a good time that I don't want to leave. I am sure we have all had that experience on more than one occasion. I want to experience that when I am camping, and not irritation about how I was treated.
I have been to Airstream events that I have such a good time that I don't want to leave. I am sure we have all had that experience on more than one occasion. I want to experience that when I am camping, and not irritation about how I was treated.
Steve
I have that experience on every occasion.
too bad that it doesn't appear to be available to you. I'd say to put in for a transfer to Devens...but they closed it.
So here I sit at the 2009 International Rally in Madison WI...................
HAVING A BLAST (again, #10 now)
This is what the club is about, nice grass site, great weather, good people, and a meeting to go to when I want to.
Couple of notes on the International, the seminars that they have set are some of the best I have seen in some time, those that set those up, they did a great job!
The VAC parking as always is great, 60 + coaches here and it great to see old WBCCI vintage members ( and non vintage as well!)
Most of all NO ONE has tried to shove politics down my throat this week.
Just a good time with good people.
Get out and pull your trailer, that's what the club is about.
And all of the above from a very simple post (Quoted).
Glad I'm still on vacation, parked on pavement, paying over $500 for the week. Got to go ride coasters, see you all when I get home................
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. I heard you did a great job holdong the flag and would love for someone to post a picture of it. . . .
...and yes, Airstream parked PeeWee on the grass, but because of the good guy he is, he joined us on pavement for some good ole fashion camping fun. 
Luckily there is something to treat that heartburn.... "camping fun!"
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