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Old 05-16-2004, 04:33 PM   #15
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OK, Jack, when is the JCCCI International Rally?
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Old 05-16-2004, 05:31 PM   #16
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Congratulations, Jack! WBCCI must be watching and seeing the growth this year in the Moraine View gathering. For sure, your invitation to this casual meeting fits the two of us much more than anything we have read in the Blue Beret. However, I'll keep the membership in the WBCCI for two reasons: 1) I like the big red numbers that are part of the history of our AS (!), and 2) I like supporting something that is part of the history of Airstreaming in general, although we personally could not stand one of those big rallies! WBCCI is part of the AS mistique to me, strange as that may seem, so we'll support it with our membership and hope some active senior WBCCI Airstreamer enjoys the value of our dollar!
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:49 PM   #17
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It really sounds like the case is that they are not catering to you and it is not falling onto place.
Put a little more effort into it instead of complaining to the forum.
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Hmmm. Excuse me? Who is bemoaning the lose of members and/or the lack of new members? And trolling for NEW members?
How much work should I have to do to not only be a member but be able to take part in all offered activities?
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Some people keep losing site of the fact it is ALL VOLUNTEER. Having snail mail provides connectivity for EVERYONE, not just those of us who are PC savvy. You gotta be willing to share the floor with all age groups not just ours.
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I do business, volunteer and commericial, all over the world. All the organizations I currently am active in use many methods of communication. In todays world, we use email, phone, fax, and back it up with snail mail. This makes it quick and easy to get the job done, and respond timely to questions. If an officer or chair does not have a pc or email, we 'loan' an address to that person to use.
If you insist on soley communicating via USPS, be prepared to see your numbers fall even lower.
Want members? Tailor the organization to the demographics of the those you are seeking to entice into joining. YOU change, you don't exect THEM to change to join you!
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Yeah. And??????
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Oh!, by the way, how many emails did you write to the WBCCI and the Blue Beret, (who do have email addresses), with these same complaints?
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Well, did get a phone number to contact the local unit. After leaving three messages with two different people, I decided anything I had to chase that hard was too much effort; I have a life, I have a family, I have friends, and of course my dogs and volunteer activities. You either want me for a member and make an effort to recruit me (how's that for a concept- recruit!) or........ you don't!
Is this where I should quote the old Groucho Marx bon mot? At least I think it was Groucho...... Any group that would have me I don't want to join, he purportedly said as he was invited to join a golf club.....

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Old 05-16-2004, 08:25 PM   #18
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Its a shame really. There is a huge potential member pool out there.
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:36 AM   #19
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After breakfast on Saturday morning, the treasurer holds court .
This Comment ALONE would keep me from joining the WBCCI. I STILL haven't seen or heard any reason to join the WBCCI. Although I haven't had the good fortune to meet Jack yet...He may have a few things to say that change my mind.

But for now, I say the JCCCI starts crashing the WBCCI Rally's! With Beanie Propellers a twirlin' !!!!

Do you think the WBCCI would get the point then????
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:49 AM   #20
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Personally, I would prefer Stetsons.
If we are going to be the bad boys, we might as well wear the hats....
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:50 AM   #21
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I STILL haven't seen or heard any reason to join the WBCCI.
Reason #1: You must be a WBCCI member in order to be a member in the Vintage Airstream Club which is an IntraClub (sub-club) of the WBCCI.

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Old 05-17-2004, 09:23 AM   #22
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This Comment ALONE would keep me from joining the WBCCI. I STILL haven't seen or heard any reason to join the WBCCI. Although I haven't had the good fortune to meet Jack yet...He may have a few things to say that change my mind.

But for now, I say the JCCCI starts crashing the WBCCI Rally's! With Beanie Propellers a twirlin' !!!!

Do you think the WBCCI would get the point then????
Would it have been better if I had said "the treasurer sits at a table with a notebook, calculator, and pencil and everyone settles their bills"????? I would think that the phrase "holds court" would have been interpreted by most folks in the manner that I intended.

It seems that a lot of folks pick on anything to disparage an organization that they have no first-hand knowledge of.
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Old 05-17-2004, 09:55 AM   #23
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Changes are occuring albeit at a slow pace. We have 2 VP's coming through the ranks who will advocate change. Will we give up the typical WBCCI rallys that many of us dislike? No, because these rallys are supported and attended by the older members. But you will see additional rallys, built upon the theme of what we are doing with the Moraine View rally. We think we can cater to the younger folk and the older. That's why I am encouraged that the organization, at least in STL, will survive.

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Old 05-17-2004, 10:38 AM   #24
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It seems that a lot of folks pick on anything to disparage an organization that they have no first-hand knowledge of.
I have said it before and now it is said again.

Seems like people who cast stones are standing far back.

It really comes down to "if you had to ask, you would not understand"

It is okay if some of you choose not to join and participate with the WBCCI,

WE WILL MISS YOU!

I find it ironic that non WBCCI people are desperately trying to organize Airstreaming events and are full of anticipation for the first rally much less the next rally, if it happens.

We will be rallying 10 months of the year, how many JCCI or FCCI or whatever you choose to call it, events will you attend this year

Am I the only one hearing this? "When can we have a rally"

I am going to rally now! sorry you wont be there, why dont you hang out and write about it here on the forum while the rest of us go to a Rally.

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Oh no the propeller on my beanie is broken..., does this signify anything???? silver suz
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:22 PM   #26
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Smily,
don't forget that the originator of this thread IS a member, looking to participate and having a hard time at it. So, why don't you try and help, instead of writing posts like the ones above. I find your response less than appropriate.
You know, potential younger future WBCCI members are reading this. ( like myself - I'll decide after the Rocky Mountain Vintage Rally)
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:37 PM   #27
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Apologies

I am sorry if you are offended but just to be clear, there are more posters than just the originator here.

Just as some get wary of hearing the pro-WBCCI rantings that I am guilty of, I get wary of the complaints that go on here on this forum, If you have a problem with the WBCCI, take it to the WBCCI.

What does one stand to gain if they put their complaints in the box that is not anywhere close to the intended destination?

Just as all Forum gatherings are strictly voluntary, so is the WBCCI.

Is it fair to say that ALL the camping trips discussed on this forum are originated by a volunteer?
Is it fair to say that ALL activities at these camping trips are planned in a voluntary manner?
Is it fair to say that if you dont like the way things are going and seek change, speak to the ear?
Is it fair to say that if you speak to some one elses ear the message may not get delivered?
Is it fair to say that if the message is not received, there will be no result?

I too am one of the younger persons here that is simply saying, that the WBCCI is and will be WHATEVER YOU MAKE OF IT!

I can honestly say, that if I have a problem, I go to the horses mouth.
believe it or not, The articles came about by doing just that, I listened here and other places about the pros and cons of the WBCCI. I chose to speak to the WBCCI. I see results.

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Old 05-17-2004, 01:32 PM   #28
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Regarding the vintage of the folks that run WBCCI - one of the joys of retirement is being able to give back to your community with your time and acquired knowledge. Most working stiffs like us don't have the time or resources to run the club like these folks do. By the time all the changes come round people would like to see today, some of us might just be the people in that picture, and the youngsters will have a whole new batch of gripes. Like, why do the caravans have to stick with bumpy old roads, when we can hitch a ride on the space/time continuum-warp (aka SPATCARP), and get were we gotta be 5 minutes ago, for the paltry sum of $5735.00 (that's $45 in 2004 dollars).

I admit that my main reason for joining WBCCI (I've been advised by my future unit to wait until July when the year rolls over to join) will be to join the Vintage Club. But I belong to several organizations where I am unable to take advantage of all that they offer, either because of where I live (eg, no discounts on FedEx shipping from one group because there is no FedEx office around here,), or because I can't afford to take advantageof some offers (eg, retirement plan that earns 6% guarenteed? Cool! $10,000 minimum investment? Uh no.) I just believe that the existence of these groups make my world a better place overall, so I support them. If we don't, they won't change, they will just disappear.
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