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Old 05-08-2010, 05:49 AM   #85
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I recall the IP said he was budgeted based on about 700 rigs,, A realistic expectation. Larson last year committed to 1200 which was the main reason for the $103K loss.


I suspect they will be alright this year and it does sound like other positive changes in the rally.

We decided not go this year (after 14 in a row)due to no 3 amp parking or other low cost parking alternative. Full hook ups to us was not worth the price increase of $210.00
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Old 05-08-2010, 06:32 AM   #86
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Rick the break even I heard was 1050, but I'm not 100% sure.

Under Larsons feckless watch it cost the club about $35K (penalty )not 103K for not delivering 1200.

These people don't know how to negotiate contracts, six months in advance knowing the economy tanked, gas prices were up should have renegotiated the contract.

Any leadership worth their salt would have.

If these guys had a clue where in fact the center of the US was and the fact that more of the population is east of the Mississippi they would have a better turnout IMO. Several years have been in the NW quadrant of the US.

This going to cost each of the 5300 members not going about $30 of their $55 dues.



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Old 05-08-2010, 07:53 AM   #87
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Rick the break even I heard was 1050, but I'm not 100% sure.

Under Larsons feckless watch it cost the club about $35K (penalty )not 103K for not delivering 1200.
This going to cost each of the 5300 members not going about $30 of their $55 dues.
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I am fairly sure I heard Tom Collier use the 700 number and that he was only obligated to pay for the spots used.

At any rate, based on past attendance 700 would be a reasonable number.

The 1200 number used by Larson was NOT reasonable by any standard as the last rally to achieve that number was in Vermont in 2003 and you have to go back to 2000 to find another over 1200

Along with that I seem to recall the VT promotional magazine promised 200 vendors? Then there was the give away deal with the new Airstream and Truck that was promised. When you actually read the fine print on the ticket the odds were something on the order of a half million to one on winning, and of course no one did

Calling the Madison rally poor planning is not a hindsight evaluation. It was clear from the start.

Wasn't the total Rally loss much higher than 35K? If I go pull the budget and look this thing will probably time out on me.

Just went back to the P&L. If I am reading it correctly there was an International rally loss of $103,279.
I recall that amount being transfered to cover it at the IBT meeting


The one thing for sure is we will not be attending any full hook up only internationals.
Just doesn't meet our general cost/ benefit criteria
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Old 05-09-2010, 02:25 PM   #88
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The budget that I received for the 2010 International Rally in Gillette, WY was a breakeven budget with the projected attendance of 700. Smaller attendance, high fixed costs resulted in the registration cost of $500 after 1/1/10.

If someone has a budget with different information or a link to such information, please post it.

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It is important to consider the number of cancellations is normally in excess of 10%. While there are late additions, they normally come in about 100 or more short of the final expected number.

Tom has applied many of your Rally Ideas to some degree. There is change. It isn't as fast as we would like and it isn't painless. Working from within is very difficult in this club, but it IS working. Let's hope the Membership and Bank Account hold out long enough to see it through!
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