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Old 07-21-2012, 10:38 AM   #1
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Applying Unit Numbers

Can someone please tell me the best way to apply unit numbers to my rig?
I have heard that its much easier to go to Fast Signs and have the numbers
placed on a one piece decal. What is the spacing between numbers suppose to be?
Thanx for any help.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:11 AM   #2
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On a sheet of paper large enough to hold the numbers. Draw a straight line on the paper. Lay the numbers out so they look correct. Correct does not mean to space them equally but rather what looks correct to the eye. Now find and mark on the paper the center of this formation, equal distance from the 2 outer points. Mark a reference point on the paper for each number, the lower left corner of the number should work.

On the trailer draw a light pencil line about 1 1/2 in. above the marker light. Use the window frame as a reference to draw the line parallel to. Do not use a level as it is unlikely the trailer is lever. Mark the center of that line, using a square, again using the window frame as a reference. The marker lights would seam to be a reference point but they are not always mounted with a good eye at the factory.

Now using the original paper and the reference points place one of the center most numbers an work you way outwards placing each number on the pencil line as you go. If they are dry decals your placement has to be good. Most dry decals will have a cut line on the paper back. Place the number and while holding one half of the number in place lift the other side and peel back the paper. Then work your way down the exposed part of the number placing it. Now lift the other side and do the same. This type of decal you may want a second person to hold the number in place while you peel the back off or you can tape the top half to the trailer while working on th lower half. If they are wet decals you will have to place the decal in a pan of water for 10 or 15 seconds. The decal should the slide off the paper as you hold it in position on the trailer.

With wet decals you will most likely have bubbles under the numbers as you place them. They can be worked to the edge of the number with a squeegee. The numbers will slide for adjustment as long as the are wet underneath. Some number will change shape, 2,3,5,7, as you place them so adjustment may be necessary. Step back and look as you work.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:19 PM   #3
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Howie has pretty well covered it, but I would add one more tip....do this job on a day with little to no wind. The numbers are so flimsy the wind will mess them up as you try to install them, and you probably already know if they get stuck to themselves, the game's over.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:24 PM   #4
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WBCCI Numbers on Plexiglass

My wife and I decided we didn't want to apply our numbers to the skin of our unit. We purchased a sheet of plexiglass from Lowes, applied the numbers to the sheet and use suction cups to fasten the sheet to our front window when participating in WBCCI events or camping at Airstream only parks. Other times we don't put the sign out. I posted the details of making the plexiglass sign on Airforums a few months ago with photographs. Here is a link:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f286...1-a-90573.html

Feel free to PM me with any questions if you choose to go this route. The biggest disadvantage is not being able to display the numbers while you are actually traveling on the highway.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:59 PM   #5
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I cheated, I had ghost numbers on my Bambi II and was able to get the same number so application was easy. I just put them directly over where the old ones were. Came out perfectly alligned and level.
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:52 AM   #6
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Can someone please tell me the best way to apply unit numbers to my rig?
I have heard that its much easier to go to Fast Signs and have the numbers
placed on a one piece decal. What is the spacing between numbers suppose to be?
Thanx for any help.
Yep, we did that. The sign company took a PDF of the numbers I made up by scanning them into the computer and assembling the images to one page, full size. The result was vinyl numbers on a "carrier" with a cover sheet.

As described above, I drew a light pencil line for the base line. Took the "back" off the carrier. Placed the base of the numbers on the line and pressed. Pulled off the backing sheet carefully. Done.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:54 PM   #7
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Does anyone know or have an idea for displaying numbers temporarily? I don't want to permanently put the numbers on our trailer. Is there a way to display them for events only?
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:15 PM   #8
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Most people mount them on a piece of plexglas and hang them in the front window on the outside. You could also hang them on the propane tank cover.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:26 PM   #10
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Plexi attached to the front of AS with Velcro ...
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:40 PM   #11
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As already noted, these are NOT easy to get on straight -- and they ARE flimsy. Plus, I was on a stepladder with a level, a pencil, etc. For those of you who do the plexiglas/temporary mount, we miss figuring out who you are when we are going by you in the opposite direction, have only a few seconds to read the number -- open the directory and find out who you are and where you're from! But, then there are those who like anonymity!
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:47 AM   #12
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I like the numbers on the Airstream. As unique as the Airstream itself, it looks unfinished without them.

I used masking tape along the bottom of the group as a guide, started at the middle of the trailer and worked out both directions to center them, using masking tape as a vertical edge on each number one at a time.

The thin numbers take less space the the wide ones, so they do not take equal space, but rather equal space between them.

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Old 03-31-2013, 10:59 AM   #13
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As already noted, these are NOT easy to get on straight -- and they ARE flimsy. Plus, I was on a stepladder with a level, a pencil, etc.
Yeah. If I were king of WBCCI, I'd look into updating the process with vinyl on a vinyl peel-off backing, which is how all of those decals with intricate details you see on cars are done. Perhaps give the font, size, and color info out freely to vinyl shops so anyone could make one for you, and contract with a shop somewhere that makes them up for a reasonable price for members.

This would solve a LOT of problems with straightness and spacing. Still a bit of a pain to put on, but you only have to straighten and center ONE thing, not 4 or 5 individual flimsy things.

Or, even better, work with Airstream to come up with a way to mount the numbers that doesn't require adhesive at all. For example, if Airstream could make a couple rivets that allowed you to thread a small bolt into, you could easily mount them on a piece of clear plexi or something then screw that to the trailer without damaging it at all (I'm just thinking out loud here - this idea would need some refinement). Of course that would only work for new trailers, so perhaps my first idea is better.
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You might be on to something here Skater.

Why not install four or six 'RIVNUTS' in the AIRSTREAM shell at the desired location. Seat the 'rivnuts' in sealant and when not being used for the intended purpose, install nylon cap screw and washers with the chrome caps to seal the mounts.

To show your numbers, cut up a polished aluminum panel of suitable size, mount your numbers, and install with chromed caps on the threaded retainers.
https://www.boltdepot.com/Chrome_bolt_covers.aspx

Chrome Nuts and Bolts, Washers & Fasteners - Bolt Depot

Chances are you would never remove the number plate until you sold the trailer, and then you just install the plate on the new trailer.

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.Or, even better, work with Airstream to come up with a way to mount the numbers that doesn't require adhesive at all. For example, if Airstream could make a couple rivets that allowed you to thread a small bolt into, you could easily mount them on a piece of clear plexi or something then screw that to the trailer without damaging it at all (I'm just thinking out loud here - this idea would need some refinement). Of course that would only work for new trailers, so perhaps my first idea is better.
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