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Old 03-14-2012, 11:04 AM   #15
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The situation may be even worse than you suspect. It seems lately I have sent several e mails to addresses I later found were incorrect yet I never got a bounce notice. They seem to have just disappeared into cyberspace. Maybe to the same place all those lost socks go.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:10 AM   #16
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Two of the ten emails I looked up I used on 3/1/2012 and they did not bounce. I know for a fact that some of them are good.

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Old 03-14-2012, 11:22 AM   #17
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May be the sad state of some folks' use of email. Often enough, people making reservations here mistype their own addresses, don't know their addresses (giving www. as an email address is fairly common), or simply provide an address that they evidently never check, resulting in overfilled inboxes.
There's another phenomenon I am starting to see among internet-active friends resulting from the explosive growth of smart phones.

What happens is that they start viewing their emails on their smart phones and seldom go to their "actual" computers to get their email. Typically the smart phone is set up not to remove emails from the server, so after just a few days of email, spam, glurge, and everything else that shows up in our mailboxes, the allocated server space is exceeded and further incoming email is refused. Ah, technology. . .
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:37 AM   #18
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I think the point would be that info would be disseminated to the entire membership directly via ConstantContact, like the emails about new issues of the Blue Beret.
Let's see. . . who do I get WBCCI/Constant Contact emails from. . . Blue Beret Online, Marketing Committee, Electronic Communications Committee, and Vintage Airstream Club.

The fact that the proposed revised constitution is not even being mentioned either in emails or in the Blue Beret speaks volumes about the depth of Executive Committee commitment to it. Like, zero.

Another thought recently crossed my mind. At Du Quoin, (at the Delegates Meeting or the IBT Seminar, not sure which) a well known standing committee chairman stated that his lawyer (unnamed, but different from WBCCI's corporate counsel) had assured him that several provisions of the proposed revised constitution were in conflict with Ohio law. The committee chairman said that for this reason was his duty to see that it wasn't adopted. I don't recall if he expressly stated that he would go for a court order, but I think I smelled the implication. It would be ironic if a course of action undertaken to eliminate the threat of one lawsuit ended up bringing on another one.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:17 PM   #19
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Another thought recently crossed my mind. At Du Quoin, (at the Delegates Meeting or the IBT Seminar, not sure which) a well known standing committee chairman stated that his lawyer (unnamed, but different from WBCCI's corporate counsel) had assured him that several provisions of the proposed revised constitution were in conflict with Ohio law. The committee chairman said that for this reason was his duty to see that it wasn't adopted. I don't recall if he expressly stated that he would go for a court order, but I think I smelled the implication. It would be ironic if a course of action undertaken to eliminate the threat of one lawsuit ended up bringing on another one.
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You're referring to the CBL chair Don S. (hearsay opinion)

After he spoke I rebutted what he said,
his lawyer is not an Ohio lawyer.
He had nothing in writing to support that opinion from any lawyer.

The clubs lawyer gave a written legal opinion that the revision was well within the Ohio law.

The EC ignored his (cbl) position and moved forward.

He sang the same song several times thereafter including the Sarasota Rally.

The EC (the Club) will stand on it's own lawyers written opinion.

Don can say anything he wishes but the delegates have it in their control now to vote, Don has no vote and the IP and Parliamentarian disagree with his hearsay opinion.

Now let's move forward, do you wish to help volunteer your time to help?

Do you have any proposed amendments to offer?


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Old 03-14-2012, 01:11 PM   #20
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My strictly personal observation is that if Don S. doesn't like it, it is usually something the club needs to do
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #21
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You may also find many units that list their future events as TBA rather than give any specific details. My former unit and then also the next unit I tried in the same region had none or at most non unit specific activities listed, if at all, often citing state or national events in leu of unit activities. Listings each month in the Blue Beret or online on the WBCCI site had little to nothing listed regularly throughout the year, every single year. That being the case and attendance open to all makes dues a very discretionary and voluntary option. Unless you have either too much money or too much exuberance proper procedure is easily set aside. Failure to update WBCCI data entries is not necessarily a touch stone of activity or inactivity for the group but more a statement about the impetus and significance, or lack thereof, in following former protocol pragmatically as in the past. There are many gregarious groups of Airstreamers easily accessible online these days. While WBCCI has not raised the bar, alternatives have grown and continue to compell people to join their ranks while the WBCCI continues to show dwindling numbers in membership.

I think individuals that oscillate between what they offer and what they deliver are far more detrimental than the adversary that makes his stand and issue known and remains firm to his beliefs. The membership can then make their own choices through elections. Whereas the other creeps forward in treachery and unseen backroom deals that blindside and undermine the promised agenda that subverted others to abandon their resolve. I respect Don S. whether I agree or disagree with what is his opinion.
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:08 PM   #22
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If headquarters wanted to get information to me they would have no problem finding my email. I do not know why you cannot.

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The units listed below (25% of the clubs units) have no or inactive emails, for their UP or 1st VP, which means info can not be filtered down to its members from HQ.

Please ask your unit to update their info with HQ

172 TEXAS HIGHLAND LAKES

158 NASHVILLE MUSIC CITY TN

151 MO GRTR OZARKS

137 METRO-DETROIT MI

138 NORTH CASCADE WA

131 AL-MON-O PA

128 LOUISIANA ACADIANA

120 ALBERTA SASK

115 APPALACHIAN UNIT OF WV

116 WISCONSIN

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068 WATCHUNG NJ

069 NEW MEXICO

070 BERKSHIRE NEW YORK

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058 GREATER ST. LOUIS MO

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Old 03-15-2012, 11:42 AM   #23
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They have mine, it is also listed on the WI Unit Website.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:59 PM   #24
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If a unit is listed, it means the e-mail sent to the accounts that Jackson Center provided (for UP and U1VP) we're bounced or unopened. We would like to make sure those units get the communication.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:01 PM   #25
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If a unit is listed, it means the e-mail sent to the accounts that Jackson Center provided (for UP and U1VP) were bounced or unopened. We would like to make sure those units get the communication.

Corrected!
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:22 PM   #26
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Our Texas Highland Lakes President confirmed with JC that they have the current email addresses for herself and the membership chair. If you could not get our email address from JC, you aren't looking properly.
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If a unit is listed, it means the e-mail sent to the accounts that Jackson Center provided (for UP and U1VP) were bounced or unopened. We would like to make sure those units get the communication.

Corrected!
The "or unopened" stipulation makes me wonder...

It's possible that they're operating under the assumption that everyone has listed the constant-contact email address as a trusted sender and displays internet content in the message... ConstantContact "hides" a 1-pixel image in their emails so they can tell when the particular message is opened, IF the program opening it is allowed to display internet content. Most modern email clients do not do so by default unless the sender is on your safe list.
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:04 PM   #28
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I live in the 131 AL-MON-O PA area. But I chose to join the WDCU and I'm a associate member of the Penn Wood group. This do to the inactivity of the AL-Mon group. The Al-Mon group is now having a rally at Penn Wood.

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