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Old 06-19-2014, 06:19 PM   #29
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Landshark said; "I'm curious why, as vintage owners, we are perceived as having a vested interest in WBCCI? I don't see the connection, and my husband and I are members of WBCCI ONLY in order to be members of the Vintage Club. The Vintage Club has more fun and more activities at its gatherings than WBCCI-only people, as evidenced by the vintage club members who own much newer, non-vintage A/Ss"

I think you answered your own question as to why you belong to the WBCCI. More people will see an Airstream on a Progressive commercial tonight than a year's worth of rally's. Same goes for a GEICO magazine ad. Thor is in the business to sell product and other than some print ads supporting the WBCCI, there's no logic in any support beyond ads in the club magazine. WBCCI promotes a life style while Thor promotes a product. I too have a garage full of hot rods and classic cars along with an '85 Avion plus the AS. My point very simply is that supporting the WBCCI is not necessarily a wise business model for Thor. I've got 30 plus years in the advertising and marketing business and if Thor was my client, i would tell them to nothing more than throw a bone to the WBCCI.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:04 PM   #30
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So the thread zigs and zags.

This is a camping club that is supposed to be about Fun, Friendship, and Adventure. When it ceases to be so, it is time for change.

A few of our friends made that decision last year and formed a new unit. I don't know if members carry guns during our rallies, but we did have a visit to a range at our February rally.

As for political options, members can file grievances, but those never solve problems.

If you have an opportunity, visit with some other units. Even if you don't re-join, you will probably have a good time and make new friends.

Hope to see you down the road.

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Old 12-20-2014, 08:40 PM   #31
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I'm an outsider, but I did purchase a new Heartland mpg (Thor owns Heartland) and a used Foretravel MH. We never got anything from Heartland about the owners' club or forum, but I had already found them. Foretravel owners get their first year (well, up to a year) membership in the Motorcade (their owners' club) free, and Motorcaders get 10% off of parts ordered from the factory. Membership numbers will be installed on the coach for free. I don't know how much money Foretravel puts into Motorcade, but they certainly know what's going on. They advertise in the Motorcader (the magazine) and they monitor the owners forum. Perhaps Airstream could do something similar.

We're talking a little about an Airstream. If we would get one, we'll see about membership in WBCCI. From what I've seen, there are probably other places for that money.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:08 AM   #32
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WBCCI would've worth the money, try it for a year. But the best rallys in my opinion are the forum rallys and the others talked about on here. Some of them are WBCCI rallys but mist are not. No one is excluded. The fall and spring events in n georgia ans s Carolina are well represented and organized. Once you get into the flow of how the forums work, rally info will become easy. Good organizers, locations and thought go into these. Good people, all different, but good friendly people. Jim
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:18 AM   #33
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Question Our experience....

How is it a 'Rally' when they don't allow you to rally?

Years ago we happened upon a Wally Rally quite by accident. We were new Streamers at the time, had no knowledge of the Forum and had many questions about our 'new' 63 Safari. We were not allowed on the grounds, were directed to an area at least a 1/4mi away. We found one gentleman from AS of NJ who was willing to inspect our AS, spend some time with us and answer our questions.
I never mailed in the membership papers but did continue to do business with AS of NJ, (now Colonial, I believe)

I guess we just didn't fit the demographic at the time....
We are 'of age' now but still don't have any Grand Kids to contribute.

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Old 12-21-2014, 07:28 AM   #34
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Gosh, I came back to an AIrstream from a moho, and one of the reasons was to be a WBCCI member. As I understand it, many social organizations have problems, especially with the economy being in the less than desirable status. But, if I want changes in an organization, i have to get involved and campaign for the changes I desire.

The "family" and historical aspects of the WBCCI are important for me and I do hope it survives changes and meets requirements for a future which provides what members desire.
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:46 AM   #36
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It is first impressions that make or break businesses and clubs. We have been working very hard on the club, but it is still up to the Units and the Members to welcome others.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:52 AM   #37
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All kinds of people buy and use Airstreams for a broad array of usages. To be worth the money, the club must provide programs and value to those people who use them in that broad variety of usages.

At the national level, the club provides services to those with time, and the desire, to participate in longer activities such as national caravanes, Internationals, and Special events.

For the younger, working members the club needs to support the local Unit's weekend and shorter activities. The national club does provide, insurance, free websites for advertising, local leadership training at the Internationals,and the Blue Beret. Additional programs, to support the locals, should be developed.

There is little the club can provide for people that do not participate in local or national events.

Recently, the first time Airstream's "target market" buyers of new Airstreams are younger, with families and no time to participate, or interest in, "club" type activities. Only 5% of Airstream's current sales go to people who participate in Internationals or caravans.
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We bought our Foretravel in March, 2013. Our Motorcade membership was free for the remainder of that year. We renewed ($75/year) because one of the benefits was 10% off on parts and labor. Does WBCCI offer that?
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We bought our Foretravel in March, 2013. Our Motorcade membership was free for the remainder of that year. We renewed ($75/year) because one of the benefits was 10% off on parts and labor. Does WBCCI offer that?
Simple answer, no. Airstream occasionally does have a sale in their store but their is no financial or direct business connection between the club and the factory.
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We bought our Foretravel in March, 2013. Our Motorcade membership was free for the remainder of that year. We renewed ($75/year) because one of the benefits was 10% off on parts and labor. Does WBCCI offer that?
Until fairly recently, WBCCI did give one year free membership to new Airstream buyers. The practice was discontinued because very few renewed. I would like to see the practice reinstated, myself.

WBCCI can't offer a discount on parts and labor because because they are an entirely separate entity from Airstream, Inc.
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Until fairly recently, WBCCI did give one year free membership to new Airstream buyers. The practice was discontinued because very few renewed. I would like to see the practice reinstated, myself.
That high rate of turn over speaks volumes that the club no longer is meeting the needs of the majority of new owners. That handwriting has been on the wall for a long time. Different attitudes, monetary pressures, less free time, and organizational politics all make it difficult for many organizations to thrive and grow. It will be interesting to see how WBCCI survives over the long run.

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It would be interesting to know how many of the purchasers who got free memberships even bothered to check out the club.

While the WBCCI has had a load of problems over a number of years movement seems to be going in the right direction . The current officer chain is encouraging in that they seem to have a grasp of the situation that is not based on how things were done post WW ll.
The electronics committee is also doing a fine job of dragging us back to the modern age

Every organization that I belong to seems to have shrinking numbers even though some are very well run.
To some degree many are not joiners and people, especially the younger ones have a very busy life style.
Five years ago I was ready to write the club off and felt like I was only hanging around so I could see the lights turned off.

I am quite a bit more optimistic today.
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