Did you guys happen to miss the whole name change deal?
One of the major issues was having to license the word "A**stream" for use. It looks to me that you're off to a pretty bad start for a new club.
But, if you'd like to start off by being strapped to the table by Thor -- have at it -- good luck -- I'm staying put...
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GT- As I mentioned on the other thread, how did Thor get so entrenched in WBCCI? No, I'm staying in WBCCI for the long haul, going to get nominated and work like a dog to do well by the Region 1 membership. ACA is a pipe dream that we all wish could happen but never will. We need to purchase a copy of Wally's book for every officer of WBCCI and hope they can be retuned to the original idea of WBCCI.
__________________ J. Rick Cipot Sandi Gould NEUNew England Unit Airstream Life Magazine WBCCI #3411 AIR #17099
Yes, in its present incarnation, the WBCCI is slowly dying. But usually suicide is much quicker. What's being proposed in this thread is the quick solution. What's being pursued by the IBT is the long, drawn out, heavily medicated approach. Neither really has to occur does it?
We as members can reject the Constitutional amendment when it comes up for a vote. We as members we can vote in or out of office anyone we choose. We as members we can unite, organize and vote in one loud, clear voice and be heard.
Personally, I only have one issue right now that I care about. The rebadging issue. Flags and berets? I don't care about at all. The name change? Before my time and it was settled, as far as I know, the same way the rebadging issue will be resolved.
I am disappointed with the IBT. I don't blame Airstream or Thor in the least.
The IBT, IMHO, is prostituting the club, MY club, so they can (1) get a new MoHo and write off the interest and (2) still stay in MY club and play the bigshot.
(Just as an aside; is even the "Airstream Edition" badge itself made by Airstream?)
Yes, if my club goes the way the IBT wants us to, we will retain some members. (Mostly just IBT members.) We will also gain some new members as well. But my club will lose this member for one if it passes and I'm guessing I won't be alone either. If it does pass, I will accept the fact that I was clearly in the minority and go and join Rick's Airstream Club. But before I go, I will let my voice be heard and do whatever I can to help the WBCCI.
If each and every member had been given the opportunity to vote on an issue of allowing non-Airstream units into WBCCI, you would not be reading this post and I would hve had no reason to place it.
The vote that took place at the Winter IBT Meeting is just to put the motion in front of the membership for approval!
If more than 1/3 of the membership reject the motion at the International Rally in June, it will not pass....and will NOT go into effect. Get out & vote through your Unit & Delegates...it's not over until it's over! The fat lady has not begun to sing...she may be warming up though if we don't band together to keep the WBCCI alive.
There are many more trailer owners in the club than motorhomes...we CAN beat this!
Shari
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Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002
We as members can reject the Constitutional amendment when it comes up for a vote. We as members we can vote in or out of office anyone we choose. We as members we can unite, organize and vote in one loud, clear voice and be heard.
Yes, if my club goes the way the IBT wants us to, we will retain some members. (Mostly just IBT members.) We will also gain some new members as well. But my club will lose this member for one if it passes and I'm guessing I won't be alone either. If it does pass, I will accept the fact that I was clearly in the minority and go and join Rick's Airstream Club. But before I go, I will let my voice be heard and do whatever I can to help the WBCCI. Won't you join me?
Don- Too bad you and I don't get to vote! Yes, it would be cool to have a real AS club but the powers who control the name would never allow it but it is fun thinking about it. As mentioned here and the other thread the best we can do is to get individuals with the right mind set in office. Every unit should be working on its regional officers and deligates. How did Lincoln become President of the United States? He made sure that anyone who would vote for him voted! Lets start from the bottom and get up there to where real work can be done.
__________________ J. Rick Cipot Sandi Gould NEUNew England Unit Airstream Life Magazine WBCCI #3411 AIR #17099
Oh, I'll be voting Rick!
What should really happen is that for this amendment to the Constitution to PASS it should be approved by 2/3 majority. How did the membership in the first place let THAT one go?!? It's exactly upside down!
Oh, I'll be voting Rick!
What should really happen is that for this amendment to the Constitution to PASS it should be approved by 2/3 majority. How did the membership in the first place let THAT one go?!? It's exactly upside down!
See post #17 above
I don't think so...
66+% MUST VOTE YES for it to pass
Less than that and it remains staus quo. It MUST pass by 2/3's of the membership.
Shari
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Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002
Leo, can you remind us of the voting procedure? Doesn't each Unit get one vote yes or no - and all of the members in that Unit are counted as a vote?
In other words, my Unit - the Watchung Unit has let's say - fifty members. In our Unit vote, 26 members vote to allow the the SOB's into the club and 24 are against it - my Unit will cast 50 votes to allow SOBs at the delegates meeting at International. Do I have this right?
Voting will be done at the unit level. From there a delegate will be sent to the International rally to cast the final vote.
Delegates for each unit will be instructed on how to vote on behalf of their members. Some units will cast all of it's votes for or against. Some will cast a number for or against. It all depends on how the delegate is instructed to vote.
Why would two separate Airstream clubs be out of the question. There are two separate Ford Thunderbird Clubs and three separate Model A Ford Clubs, all of which use the Ford name. Why couldn't a Classic Airstream Club be created. By "classic", I don't mean only vintage travel trailers, I mean all twinkie-shaped Airstream travel trailers of any vintage. In other words, a club for the trailers that represent the classic airstream design.
__________________ SuEllyn & Brian McCabe WBCCI #3628 --- AIR #14872 2005 25' Safari FB (Lucy) with HAHA 2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2004 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Daisy)
Classic Airsteam Club is already an Intra Club along with Amateur Radio Club, CB Radio Club, Free Wheelers Club, Full Timers Club, Genealogy Club, The Computer Club, and the Vintage Airstream Club.
Why would two separate Airstream clubs be out of the question. There are two separate Ford Thunderbird Clubs and three separate Model A Ford Clubs, all of which use the Ford name. Why couldn't a Classic Airstream Club be created. By "classic", I don't mean only vintage travel trailers, I mean all twinkie-shaped Airstream travel trailers of any vintage. In other words, a club for the trailers that represent the classic airstream design.
Brian-
As much as I would love to start the Airstream Club of America, anyone who would want to do so would have to obtain a license to use the name AIRSTREAM. Till there is no pulse left at WBCII and they are close, our best course is to get like minded people in office!
__________________ J. Rick Cipot Sandi Gould NEUNew England Unit Airstream Life Magazine WBCCI #3411 AIR #17099
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