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Old 01-16-2008, 08:12 AM   #15
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You been there too?

Your the first person here that I have seen, in this discussion, to have even been to Africa as it is today.....Countries in turmoil. I too lived in Angola for a few years (Huambo and Luena) and worked the surrounding countries. Try to explain that South Africa is atypical to the supporters of this project....... Its useless. You will get major nasty opposition, mostly from those here with a financial involvement or an unrealistic Walter Mitty lock in.

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Old 01-16-2008, 09:31 AM   #16
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I listen to BBC new regularly, and I have to say I don't think most of the news coming out of Africa is good. I mean, look at that british schoolteacher last month who was charged with naming the class teddybear Muhammed. There were mobs calling for her to be executed! That was in Sudan, where the caravan will be travelling. In the past week we've seen Kenya decend into chaos, and it was considered one of the more stable countries.

The people there are not particularly fond of Westerners right now, and some of them have some pretty crazy ideas. And here a bunch of rich westerners in their shiny aluminum trailers are going to come parading through the country, flaunting their wealth. I would not set foot in Africa that way. And I don't think there's anything wrong with saying so.

I know some of the secrecy in their plans is for security reasons. To me that is just another sign that this trip is a higher risk than I would want to take. To each his own, but it seems to me like countries in Africa are becoming more unstable everyday, and it's a higher risk than I would want to take just to say 'I did it in an Airstream'.


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Old 01-16-2008, 10:00 AM   #17
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Hi Melody, depending on when you were there, it was for guns, minerals or religion, telecom came later which was my reason. I was medi-vac'd out June of last year without a passport, turns out the big D caught up to me.

Angola is much better then it was in 2003, most of the refugee camps outsite of Luanda are emptying, there are less one legged land mine victim beggars in the streets, people have enough of war and really want peace. "A Ilha" is a better place to get a pizza, though I'm not sure I'd swim there yet, plenty of people do. If you don't speak Portuguese, you're fresh meat. Luanda Sul is great, I also went fishing/camping for a weekend and had an awesome time, great big fish, dolphins good food and lot's of booze. I never went off shore in the protected life of oil workers, no fence sitter here! I have a lot of pictures, but Angola is EXTREMELY averse to photography. Plenty of adventures, many more good ones than bad ones.

The caravan won't go to Nigeria, I have deleted the pictures of charred people, watched police "interrogations", actually, they were having fun with some people before they killed them, watched a group of woman throw stones at a guy after they caught him robbing, wired a tire around his neck, hands behind his back and waited till the taunts were over to light the gasoline filled tire. Some of our Muslim contractors watched "christians" machete the occupants in car in front of them.

Would I go back? I'm stuck in a rainy 25' Safari at the moment, I'd rather be drinking there with some friends in Luanda.

I think the caravan could be ok, my unsolicited advice would be:

1. Corporate Sponsorship, maybe an African beer company.

2. Be prepared to be robbed, it would be better to accept it up front then at a border, that will take some intense planning.

3. Be prepared for a medi-vac or two.

4. Accept that some will get amoebic dysentery, typhoid and malaria. Take a supply of the correct drugs. I had malaria once in Honduras, it's not bad compared to dengue they say. The forms of malaria in Africa are much worse then S. America.

5. Have a doctor on the caravan with clean instruments and devices.

Did I mention that you have to accept before hand you will be robbed? It will be either bandits, a government, or both. A corporate sponsorship would help with governments.

6. Nigeria and Angola have 3G CDMA networks, I built them.

In over 4 years, I never saw a lion. The Fort in Luanda is still nice, the food in Lagos is much better then 2002. Ok, these countries are not on the caravan list, but from my limited experience (over 4 years on the continent), there are 3 types of Africans, Military with and want more money, Industrialists that have want money, poor people that have no money and want it. This IS NOT to say they are all bad people, there are some that will always be very special to me and I hope will be friends for life.

If the caravan is not run in it's entirety before the main group goes, I'd be cautious.
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Peace Corps leave Kenya

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In Troubled Kenya

The Peace Corps said Tuesday it would evacuate all its remaining workers from Kenya. More than 1,000 people have been killed in violence that degenerated into inter-ethnic clashes since the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential election, which observers say was rigged.

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