Originally Posted by Forrest
Li Pets, I think I understood what you were trying to say, so I didn't take it "the wrong way" like some of the other posts. I think you are concerned about where someone coming out of no where wants to lead us.
Jim, you seem to be taking the lead and saying "follow me!" You've got a lot of enthusiasm for sure, but I've seen that before. The question is do you have the endurance? Since you do seem to be new to Airstreaming and to the forums I don't think its unreasonable to want to know something about the person that wants us to follow over to a new club.
So, who are you? I tried to go to your web site, but it doesn't seem to be functioning. You only sign your posts as "Jim" - Jim who? I went to your personal profile and it doesn't tell me much about you. This is a problem with forums... you could be anybody, maybe even Jim Franklin trying to led us malcontents out of the WBCCI!
First, as to the web site, I just went to it and it appears to be working fine; a typo in the name perhaps? The portion about our Airstream travels is definitely in its infancy and "under construction" definitely applies.
Our web site is actually three web sites. The one listed in my avatar relates to our Airstream travels.
There is Verna's Recipes which contains many, many pages of my wife's recipes that she has collected/developed over the years.
And then there is norseaodyssey.com. You learn more about us here than you ever wanted to know. You can also get to Verna's Recipies from here as well.
One thing I can guarantee, I am NOT Jim Franklin.
Another thing I can also guarantee is that I am NOT trying to lead anyone, malcontents or otherwise, from the WBCCI. The WBCCI, as I have stated in many posts on this forum (not just in this thread) is something that should be honored and respected by all who have anything to do with Airstreams.
It's just that the structure of the WBCCI does not provide what I would like to have in an Aristream club. I will leave it to those who want more info about my thoughts on the WBCCI to do a search on all of the (not so many) posts I have made here in these forums to read what my thoughts about the WBCCI are.
In addition to your request about info about me I have also received several messages from people asking why they should join a new Airstream club. I will address the later first and then include some info about us at the end of this post.
To be frank I don't know that I can answer the question as to why anyone should join a new Airstream club. Why anyone chooses to join any sort of social club is a highly individual and private decision.
The following is a message I received that asks something similar and perhaps this is what people are really curious about
"For those that respond better to what the club would do for them if those sorts are allowed. ; ) rather than what they can do to structure the club, how about flashing forward and giving a few fun example of what the club might be for their experience to enjoy. You will have members asking why do I need the club or why do I want the club or thinking it at any rate."
All very good questions.
The answer as to why I would like a be a member of a new Airstream club is very simple. I am not at all enamored with the WBCCI. Enough said; see above for my suggestion if you want to know more about my thoughts on the subject.
To answer the question, "What's in it (building a new Airstream club) for me?", I offer the following:
I have searched high and low for an alternative Airstream club to the WBCCI. I have not found one. I'm the kind of guy who is more than willing to do a bit of work to reach a goal of interest. So, in order for me to have an Airstream social organization of which I can be a member, I decided that I would work toward the establishment of an Airstream club that would offer the kind of experience I am after.
Initially I wondered if a sufficient number of other people would be interested in a new club. My first thought was probably not; obviously I have changed my opinion on the mater.
As for my personal interests in a club I love nothing better than to arrive at a campground at the end of the day and find a few familiar faces with whom I can share the experience; after all, it is really all about the people.
But, having said that, I like the opportunity to "get out" and away from what is the norm for most; a local club with members from the local area. In past experiences with other clubs I find that having a national organization that can act as a focal point for many individual local clubs has a lot of value. An annual rally brings people together face to face and gives them the opportunity to "get up close and personal" with "friends from afar", for example.
As far as activities the club should offer I tend to look at this question in a very different light than most folks, I think. My immediate response to what activities should be offered would be, "Why, it should offer any activity that any member or members want to put together.".
Again, I am interested in the creation of an organization that is INCLUSIVE and NOT exclusive. What I would prefer to see as a part of the structure of a club is nothing stated about what can/should be the activities of the club. Some sort of statement along the lines of, "the club offers rally's at locations with full hookup as well as locations for the boondocking enthusiast, caravans to the annual club rally and charted club events, AND any such other activities that the members would like to organize. How about going river rafting? What about a weekend bicycling staying at campgrounds and/or BB's? From my perspective "the sky is the limit".
But, having said all of that l suspect that many of these activities are the type of things that a local club would do simply because geographically it is much easier. But, often times it is nice to do things with people from other locations if you are lucky enough to be able to travel and do that.
A national organization brings everyone together and provides opportunities for more people who are passionate about their Airstream to meet AND they can do so without being a member of a local club if they so desire. It's all about opportunities for people to INCLUDE themselves if they so desire.
As for us personally I will offer the following here and leave it to those who want to know more about us to go to Who We Are
on our web site where you will learn more about us than you ever wanted to know.
My wife and I are very fortunate. We have been retired since 2000; we got out before the "bubble" burst"; life has been good to us. We retired early and are enjoying the freedom we have as a result. We have been traveling for the past 7 years outside the USA. We returned to the USA a year ago in May simply because the US Dollar had become so worthless that we could no longer afford to remain out of the country. We bought an Airstream; something we had planed to do many years later but as luck would have it the time was right and David at Colonial Airstream in New Jersey "made us an offer we could not refuse"; good people at Colonial IMNSHO by the way.
And, as is probably very apparent to everyone by now, I don't just sit on the local log and play the role of a bump. I like to be involved.
I'm also pretty good at being a devils advocate to the point of irritating lots of people if I should put my mind to it. But, all things being equal, I'd much rather NOT find myself in a position where I think it is necessary to exercise this particular skill.
We are traveling full time in our Airstream; a 30' Classic. We met a to of wonderful folks in the infancy of our Airstream travels last year. We plan to be at the Can Opener again this year. We also are planning on attending some other rally's as well. It's all a mater of the timing of where we are when something is scheduled. Luck of the draw and all that.
As to my "staying power" only time will tell. Frankly I think this will not be up to me. If there is sufficient interest that can be galvanized to move this process forward a new club is immanent. If people should choose not to participate then, obviously, nothing will be accomplished.
One of the first posts I made here on the Airfoum about a new Airstream Camping Club got very few replies and many were of the type that said this was a subject that had been beaten to death in a plethora of other threads. From my perspective nothing will get done unless someone comes forward to champion the cause. Want a new club? This is your chance to get involved and participate as much as you want. Not interested? Fine with me too. It's all about what the people here want to do.