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04-20-2009, 08:02 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,029
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4CU in Deep Doo-Doo
I suppose that you all have heard the news. The four corners is off by over two miles.
This is tragic. The base, the terra firma, the very fundament of the Four Corners Unit has been called into question by a bunch of lowly surveyors.
I'm heartsick.
Lynn
PS: I think we should keep this a secret, for the IBT will surely not be happy.
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ACI Big Red Number 21043
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04-20-2009, 08:10 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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IBT happy? Is that possible?
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I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
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04-20-2009, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Florissant
, USA
Join Date: Oct 2006
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All those people with pictures of them in all four states have to go back now and take new pictures.
A ploy by the tourism departments of the four states in question remains to be seen.
Steve
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04-20-2009, 08:11 PM
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The Silver Schooner
2007 28' Safari SE
Dover
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 144
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Good news/Bad news
Well don't take it too hard - although it's probably going to dampen the tourist business - but new jobs will be created to erect the new four corners monument site! Our government at work.
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Louisa & Jasper Joy
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04-20-2009, 08:13 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Greeeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,301
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And to think...they're just now finding this out?
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04-20-2009, 08:17 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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I suppose we should call ourselves the Almost Four Corners Unit, Close to the Four Corners Unit, Right Next to the Four Corners Unit, Unit of the What Used to be the Four Corners or the Unit Formerly Known as the Four Corners Unit. What are we to do? Wonder what else is off from those surveyors? Suppose the Grand Canyon is safe?
Brad
FF
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4CU 2699 / AIR 10 / TAC AZ-1
I'm haunted by aluminum.
Charter Member of the 4 Corners Unit.
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04-20-2009, 08:58 PM
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AIR #8691
2006 25' Safari SS SE
Northern
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 381
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In the early 1970s we circled the 4C monument with our motorcycles. Going around a circles through four states in a few seconds. Didn't cost anything and it was no big deal, even though we rode all the way from the East Coast.
In the late 1990s, with my wife and kids, they wanted to charge us something to get in or to see it. No thanks.
Now with my Airstream, I'm interested in the geography and the atmosphere. Such topographical things or 'manmade' cartographical lines aren't worth going out of my way any more. But with GPS, why did it take so long to find the error and what other borders lines are wrong?
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04-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JStanley
In the early 1970s we circled the 4C monument with our motorcycles. Going around a circles through four states in a few seconds. Didn't cost anything and it was no big deal, even though we rode all the way from the East Coast.
In the late 1990s, with my wife and kids, they wanted to charge us something to get in or to see it. No thanks.
Now with my Airstream, I'm interested in the geography and the atmosphere. Such topographical things or 'manmade' cartographical lines aren't worth going out of my way any more. But with GPS, why did it take so long to find the error and what other borders lines are wrong?
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JStanley,
I know that the northeast corner of California is wrong and as a result the borderline south to Lake Tahoe. I think some of the casinos on the Norht Shore are actually in California.
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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04-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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California and Oregon
Hi, Huell Howser made a trip to find the North-West corner of California and it was something like 100 yards into the Oregon side of the border.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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04-20-2009, 09:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic
On the road since 2000
, norseaodyssey.com
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 254
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Government at work? NOT!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudentane
Well don't take it too hard - although it's probably going to dampen the tourist business - but new jobs will be created to erect the new four corners monument site! Our government at work.
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It will probably come as a complete surprise to you but whatever "monument" that you are referring to at Four Corners has NOTHING to do with either the US or any state government.
That is Indian land and the Indians are the ones who put up what is there in order to get some money from the descendants of the people who worked very hard at implementing the US government program of Indian genocide.
Jim
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04-20-2009, 09:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Cincinnati
, Ohio
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 131
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
JStanley,
I know that the northeast corner of California is wrong and as a result the borderline south to Lake Tahoe. I think some of the casinos on the Norht Shore are actually in California.
Bill
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I heard rumor that California was going to fall into the ocean?!!?!?!?!
Woody
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04-20-2009, 09:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody.303
I heard rumor that California was going to fall into the ocean?!!?!?!?!
Woody
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Hi, that's true and we will be living on an island. So far the process has been very slow; I think we are only moving about 1/2" per year.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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04-20-2009, 09:59 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, that's true and we will be living on an island. So far the process has been very slow; I think we are only moving about 1/2" per year.
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Just think, in another 100,000 years, everyone East of the San Andreas fault will have ocean front property. I'm going to check the real estate ads now. I just need to know if they are going to move the fault too?
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Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
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04-20-2009, 10:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,025
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Not Aware, Nary a Clue, Depth in Sea Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody.303
I heard rumor that California was going to fall into the ocean?!!?!?!?!
Woody
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Californians aren't aware they fell into the ocean.
That part of the West Coast is now know as the "Sea of Debt."
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04-20-2009, 10:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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Really, you don't say
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeWee
Californians aren't aware they fell into the ocean.
That part of the West Coast is now know as the "Sea of Debt."
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Thank God I can float!
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Travel is in my blood, adventure is my passport, aluminum is my favorite construction medium, and therefore, an Airstream was my destiny.
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04-20-2009, 10:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic
On the road since 2000
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 254
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The Free State of Jefferson...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, Huell Howser made a trip to find the North-West corner of California and it was something like 100 yards into the Oregon side of the border.
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That would be the Free State of Jefferson.
If you are not familiar with this, Google it.
Jim
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We are travelers with an attitude. We get to go anywhere, anytime, and have attitudes about what we see and hear.
"Travel is fatal to bigotry, prejudice and being narrow minded."
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04-20-2009, 10:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeWee
Californians aren't aware they fell into the ocean.
That part of the West Coast is now know as the "Sea of Debt."
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Hi, that might be true, but we are not the "car theft capital of the world". [Phoenix]
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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04-20-2009, 10:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Santa Cruz
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 928
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TIMEMACHINE
Thank God I can float!
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Hope floats...
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04-20-2009, 11:55 PM
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Rivet Master
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Car Thefts 2008, and Phoenix Status April 15, 2009
In 2008 6 of the 10 cities ranked as "Worst Cities for Car Thefts" were in the state of California.
As of April 15, 2009, Phoenix, AZ has dropped off the top 10 listing year-to-date.
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04-21-2009, 12:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Based on population, not city name?
Hi, Play on words. "Based on population" [per 100,000 people] I still think Phoenix is the grand prize winner.
2008 Modesto, Ca. 4,200 car thefts.
2008 Phoenix, Az. 26,000 car thefts.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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