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Old 07-31-2011, 11:05 AM   #15
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3amp service is used when electrical service is limited and several trailers are connected to a single circuit. It is meant to keep your battery(s) charged only. The AC will not run and your refrigerator and water heater should be in gas only mode. Small electrical devices such as computers and TVs can be used.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:05 PM   #16
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Relatively new here. Explain this 3 amp thing. I never heard of it. What does that power, a flashlight? I don't think this will run an A/C. Advantages or disadvantages?
Ten rigs are daisy-chained on a 30-amp circuit. Each rig is somewhat honor bound to limit their usage.

3 amps will run the refrigerator on propane, a reasonable number of lights, and the fans. I am perfectly happy to save the dollars and use 3 amps whenever the season or the location promises to be suitable. We used 3 amps at Alumapalooza, Homecoming, Bozeman and Madison and were perfectly comfortable. OTOH, we opted for 30 amps at Perry and Springfield.

The advantage to me, in addition to cost, is the lack of AC noise in the campground. Folks keep windows and doors open and it is a lot more companionable.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:58 PM   #18
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I've been parked next to lots of trailers and was never bothered with a/c noise. Now, if you if you're talking about parking next to an 18 wheeler running his aux power unit that's noise.
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Of course, we're further limited with the WBCCI because we (still currently) need to hold the International during certain limited dates.


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There is a reason for this. From the Sierra Nevada Unit's site, written by Dale Schwanborn...

The International Rally for WBCCI came about in the same vein that the WBCCI was formed. The WBCCI gave friends an opportunity to get together without going on a Caravan. On a much larger scale the International Rally gave friends from all over the United States, and Canada to renew their friendships, in mass, once a year.

It was held on the 4th of July for several reasons. This was a period of time that school was out, and summer vacations could be taken. Also what a great time to celebrate the fantastic life of Airstream and the WBCCI. Also it was a tribute to Wally Byam. The Fourth of July was his birthday. Oh boy, did Wally love a party...especially his birthday. The Airstream owners wanted to share their way of life, and their affection for Wally.


Putting things into historical context is important I think. The rally I host, The Birthday Bash, is based around July 4 also. Without Wally, we would probably be camping in a Bounder. Celebrating his birthday is the least an Airstreamer can do.
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Thank you for posting that information. I'm sure some folks may not have been aware of it.

There is a bit of a conundrum here. On the one hand, the period right around the 4th is the high season of the summer: Some folks want to be with family or to travel to see family; some folks want just to be alone for the period; lots of possible reasons not to attend a WBCCI rally exactly during this period.

On the other, it is the International Rally, assuredly as much the year's most important business meeting as it is a club celebration.

Perhaps this could be split. Yes, have a WBCCI rally during the period of the 4th. Yes, have a business meeting. But don't tie one to the other on the calendar.

How this would work out in practical detail is hard to imagine. I suspect it might even lead to trouble for some folks. In any event, having the year's most important business meeting as well as the most important celebration of the year inexorably bound together exactly during the period that some don't want anything to do with the club may be not be the best approach.


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There is a reason for this. From the Sierra Nevada Unit's site, written by Dale Schwanborn...

The International Rally for WBCCI came about in the same vein that the WBCCI was formed. The WBCCI gave friends an opportunity to get together without going on a Caravan. On a much larger scale the International Rally gave friends from all over the United States, and Canada to renew their friendships, in mass, once a year.

It was held on the 4th of July for several reasons. This was a period of time that school was out, and summer vacations could be taken. Also what a great time to celebrate the fantastic life of Airstream and the WBCCI. Also it was a tribute to Wally Byam. The Fourth of July was his birthday. Oh boy, did Wally love a party...especially his birthday. The Airstream owners wanted to share their way of life, and their affection for Wally.

Putting things into historical context is important I think. The rally I host, The Birthday Bash, is based around July 4 also. Without Wally, we would probably be camping in a Bounder. Celebrating his birthday is the least an Airstreamer can do.
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I guess I look at it a little differently. The fact that the International is a business meeting is bizarre to me. I thought it was a gathering to celebrate the founders birthday. I guess I take Dale's words a little too literal. I kind of look at the business aspect like an invasive species. I also look at fellow Airstreamer's "AS" family. We had one heck of a family gathering this past July 4 and plan to do it again next year.
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If the dates were more flexible it would open up more possible locations for a large rally.
Plus then , if so inclined I could attend both the Bash and the International. As soon as they bring back a low cost parking option of course
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I was surprised that a previous post mentioned a spike from the generators at Springfield. The rally was held on grounds owned by the city electrical utility and we were served power by the city utility. Not to say that there was no spike, but the power did not come from mobile generators such as several more recent rallies. The utility was happy to put in power poles and lines for us in hopes of attracting other big RV clubs.
I was parked in the Vintage Section at Springfield, MO and our section was definitely seved by large diesel generators. Between the generators and an electrical storm, my nearly new Coleman air conditioner was fried . . . . $275 in repairs later it was restored to health but it took the coach out of service for the balance of the season waiting for the inept Airstream dealer in Central Illinois (now defunct) to figure out what parts were needed and make the repair.

The Springfield, MO Rally was memorable for me as I was more or less tied to my Minuet nursing a leg injury that I sustained when its step malfunctioned and removed most of the skin on my left leg from knee to ankle while on the Wagon Wheel Caravan . . . those large yellow generators had a very definite vocabulary of sounds -- but were reassuring at the same time since I knew that they were supplying the energy to keep my air conditioner going which was critical to my happiness and comfort. I was suffering from heat exhaustion at the International Rally at Madison so I spent over 90% of my time close to my Overlander and its air conditioner . . . if 30 AMP wouldn't have been avaialble I wouldn't have made it through the first day.

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Gonna try the Swiss national in Ohio with 3 amp this year. End of Sept/first Oct. Hope it's cool by then. jim
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Sorry Kevin, but you are in error. We were parked a few trailers to your south. The only generator noises we all heard were from the massive City of Springfield Power station that was to our west that separated us from the 3 amp where the Happy Hour tent was. There were no large portable generators at 2005 Springfield Rally. We did have large portable gensets at Salem Oregon in 2006. Remember the large building and the tall smoke stacks off to our west and a bit north?. They were west of us beyond the narrow row of trees we cut thru to see the fireworks on the fourth.
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My recollection of Springfield is that the power co. was paid many thousands of dollars to run power lines into the site. I think the power co. may even have owned all or part of the site.
Generators were used the year before in MI. and I think the next several years up through Madison also. I was told by the guy in charge of power at Bozeman that they lost money on the generator rentals.
Now that developed areas are used the extra $200 on the rally fee for power should be a profit center, and it appears it was in Wyoming.
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I think it was a matter of connivance at Gillette. No need for separate parking for the 3 amp lovers. Just park all as they come in and everybody is together. Even the leadership was parked in the same campground. Only special parking was for the disabled and dogs.
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Sorry Kevin, but you are in error. We were parked a few trailers to your south. The only generator noises we all heard were from the massive City of Springfield Power station that was to our west that separated us from the 3 amp where the Happy Hour tent was. There were no large portable generators at 2005 Springfield Rally. We did have large portable gensets at Salem Oregon in 2006. Remember the large building and the tall smoke stacks off to our west and a bit north?. They were west of us beyond the narrow row of trees we cut thru to see the fireworks on the fourth.
It is possible. . . . I may have been parked next to a transformer that varied its hum according to the load it was experiencing . . . whatever it was . . . it was very large . . . painted bright yellow . . . and had about a three octave range in the hum that it produced. I had to remain in bed for most of that rally as I had developed an infection following a mishap while I was on the Wagon Wheel Caravan to the Rally. Springfield, Missouri is the only International Rally site of the dozen that I have attended where my coach was damaged by the incoming power. (I was nearly flooded by gray water at my second International Rally in Dayton, Ohio when a gray water removal pipeline design flaw caused my coach and two others -- Tom Howarth and Bill Scott -- to become the low spot for our row's gray water drain system). A spike or surge shorted three capacitors in my air conditioner . . . primary compressor . . . condensor fan . . . and distribution fan. The shop (and I readily admit to finding their staff unable to interpret parts manuals . . . good diagnosticians but terrible at parts ordering) indicated that a voltage spike likely from a problem with an electric generating device fried the capacitors . . . . I ended up paying the $275 repair bill as it was only $75 more than my insurance deductible and my Coleman RV Air Conditioner warranty wouldn't cover the damage which was understandable given the circumstances of the damage.
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