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Old 02-19-2016, 07:50 AM   #101
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Any idea when they're supposed to send out our paperwork showing our scheduled parking dates and whatnot?
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:13 AM   #102
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I received a letter yesterday with FAQ for first time attendees, no mention of assigned arrival dates or assigned spots. I am going in with the SECU pre rally Caravan. Our arrival date is scheduled for June 25.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:17 AM   #103
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I received a letter yesterday with FAQ for first time attendees, no mention of assigned arrival dates or assigned spots. I am going in with the SECU pre rally Caravan. Our arrival date is scheduled for June 25.
Well, if you got the FAQ, the paperwork including the registration form you have to submit upon arrival (one copy for the parkers, one for the registrar, one to keep) can't be far behind.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:18 PM   #104
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(pre) rally entertainment

According to the Rally registration form the International officially starts on 6/28.I realize many go in (much) earlier for a variety of reasons , some necessary and some just being a perk.Now my question is if the rally doesn’t start until the 28th why does there appear to be entertainment scheduled for the nights of 6/24 6/25 and 6/27.. At what financial cost is this entertainment to the club? How much did it add to the registration fee? Is there a “stealth” rally that really started prior to the 24th? Was this general knowledge?
As we will park on the 27th with the vintage club we feel somewhat short changed
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Rick,

I was curious about some similar issues. I don't know the answers to your questions. I hope somebody will reply with answers.

Our related issue is:

The parking voucher we received has our entrance date at 6/21. We considered arriving on that date to take advantage of the early activities and essentially receive more bang-for-the-buck - we wouldn't be charged any more to park on this date versus waiting to park with the WDCU on a much later date.

We didn't sign-up for any early activities or committees so I am curious why our parking date was assigned so early. In retrospect we should have planned to park on 6/21 to get 6-7 days of "free" parking.
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:22 PM   #106
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According to the Rally registration form the International officially starts on 6/28.I realize many go in (much) earlier for a variety of reasons , some necessary and some just being a perk.Now my question is if the rally doesn’t start until the 28th why does there appear to be entertainment scheduled for the nights of 6/24 6/25 and 6/27.. At what financial cost is this entertainment to the club? How much did it add to the registration fee? Is there a “stealth” rally that really started prior to the 24th? Was this general knowledge?
As we will park on the 27th with the vintage club we feel somewhat short changed
The IBT Seminar and Meeting are on the 24th, so it's not a "stealth rally" but rather a business meeting.

But don't feel short-changed just because you'll miss a few evenings' entertainment. After all, which would you rather be at, the VAC Rally or the IBT Seminar and Meeting?
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Old 06-01-2016, 05:49 PM   #107
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But don't feel short-changed just because you'll miss a few evenings' entertainment. After all, which would you rather be at, the VAC Rally or the IBT Seminar and Meeting?
Actually won't be at either. Planning on leaving here mid day the 26th , stay in the bullpen and go in with the VAC on the 27th.
I don't feel bad about missing the entertainment, just about helping pay for it.
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Rick,

I was curious about some similar issues. I don't know the answers to your questions. I hope somebody will reply with answers.

Our related issue is:

The parking voucher we received has our entrance date at 6/21. We considered arriving on that date to take advantage of the early activities and essentially receive more bang-for-the-buck - we wouldn't be charged any more to park on this date versus waiting to park with the WDCU on a much later date.

We didn't sign-up for any early activities or committees so I am curious why our parking date was assigned so early. In retrospect we should have planned to park on 6/21 to get 6-7 days of "free" parking.
I don't know if I can provide any "answers", but maybe I can provide some historical perspective.

I guess the short answer to the question, "why do they do this" is the ever-popular "because we've always done it this way".

Years ago they used to get thousands of trailers at Internationals and the rallies were generally held in unprepared fields. WBCCI owns (or did own) several semitrailers full of surface wiring and plumbing hardware to provide temporary daisy-chained water and "3 Amp" electric service to all those trailers. Needless to say that took a lot of labor over an extended period of time so there were lots of "early workers". Since these folks were volunteers (and mighty hard workers, I can tell you!), WBCCI scheduled entertainment, tours, etc. for the weeks before the rally as perks for them.

In recent years the attendance has shrunk to the point that the rally can be accommodated in venues that have enough existing hookups that not nearly so many early workers are needed, but the tradition continues to some extent. Also, as pointed out earlier, several meetings are scheduled before the official start of the rally.

The reason that attendees not involved in any of these activities are invited to park early is just to spread out parking over a longer period of time. Not a good idea for thousands (or even several hundred) trailers to all show up on the same day.

This does lead to some strange maneuvers. Since attendees are invited to park long before the VAC parade, VAC members who wish to participate in the parade may end up parking, then hitching up and pulling out a few days later just to parade in with the VAC. Conversely, to participate in the Wagon Wheels Caravan (or whatever they call it nowadays), VAC members may have to miss some of the early activities.

For what it's worth, this seems to be a standard "industry" practice. We attended a Good Sam state rally just to see what they were like, and when we arrived on the official starting day we discovered the rally was already half over.
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Old 06-02-2016, 04:35 AM   #109
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Thanks for sharing the explanation with us, makes good sense (to me).

When we first joined the club about 7 years ago, I was disappointed to learn that the numbers had shrunk and the famous ''wagon wheel'' parking was no longer needed.
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When we attended our first international, I too was sad to learn we where a week late. And I don't think it's intentional, but more of the 'they way it's always been'.

But your correct it's not explained anywhere, and if your new you expect to show up the day it starts, and leave the day it ends. And if you only get a weeks vacation time, you have to choose wisely.

This year they gave everyone a earlier parking date to maximize the time at the event.

Also starting next year in Escanaba, the date of the Rally doesn't have to be during the 4th of July. So the Rally can start and end on any date, and next year the dates are July 22nd - 29th, later in the year. (yes the club had a rule that the Rally must include the 4th of July, why? That is Wally's Birthday!)

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Old 06-02-2016, 09:13 AM   #111
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But your correct it's not explained anywhere, and if your new you expect to show up the day it starts, and leave the day it ends. And if you only get a weeks vacation time, you have to choose wisely.

This year they gave everyone a earlier parking date to maximize the time at the event.



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I think it was actually a bit deceptive. Based on the announced dates the rally was shortened by a day while the price increased. AS far as I know there was no info to imply parking dates would be as early as the 21st ? for non workers which coupled with the entertainment etc actually is making the rally longer than normal.

The truth is we were not even going to go this year until the dry camping option opened up. I did not receive my parking pass and had to ask about it. At that time I indicated a planned arrival on the 27th (vintage club parade date) and that is indicated on my pass so I don't know what I would have had for a parking date or if I would have taken advantage of it if the pass had shown up with out my intervention.

I have attended a bunch of Internationals starting in 1973 and I don't recall ever getting a non worker parking date before the 25th so you don't have to be new at this to be somewhat confused.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:03 AM   #112
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I received an email today announcing that spots are starting to open up. The silly season has begun.
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Only my second International. Never really thought about it but it does not make sense to have everybody show up on the same day to park. I hope they do not pay by the camp sites by day but have some sort of fixed fee for the entire time the fairgrounds will be tied up? We drew the 23. I was surprised it was that early but we are retired and can be there by then.
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E mail of rally updates

I just received the e mail this morning. The people putting all this together are doing a great job and it is very helpful to have the advance info.

All the included links help a lot
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I agree with you, Rick. Who would have thought we would need so many spots, when this contract was signed. The folks in charge have done a great job adapting, and the fairgrounds continue to work on amenities.

AWChief- the registrations were closed because we had exceeded capacity. As with most events, life interrupts plans. We hope those who couldn't register originally, can look again.

I am encouraged by improvements in the club. I think the trend will continue.

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Old 06-12-2016, 01:55 PM   #116
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Curious, will people currently assigned spots with power/water no sewer be upgraded to sewer spots as people cancel?
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Absolutely. That was the basis for the note I sent you last week.

The folks managing this are working hard to consider everyone's needs.


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Along with the mini caravan this is going to be a blast. Heading on to VHH tomorrow.
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3 days away from our arrival at the International Rally! This is our first time, I look forward to joining the 290+ units already on site.

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