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01-03-2012, 02:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 34' Excella
1962 16' Bambi
New Haven
, Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 600
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2012 Membership Directory
The new 2012 Member Directory arrived today. All is in order except for the new size. The club decided to dedicate the Jan issue of the Blue Beret as the "2012 Membership Edition" (8.5x11). My only gripe is where to stow the directory in my tow vehicle???? The previous editions fit in my glove box nicely. The new version not so much. I guess the seat back pockets will have to do. We'll have see how it holds up over the course of the year.
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01-03-2012, 04:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 30' Sovereign
1959 18' "Footer"
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Brussels
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 615
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Savings
I like it and the $12,000 it is to save the club. In the seat pocket is where it will go, if it even makes it into the vehicle. I never seem to be able to remember to put it in the truck each year................
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I'm NOT an old man.............
Ed
54 Flying Cloud
59 Traveler
68 Sovereign
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01-03-2012, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 899
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I think the format is great. You don't have to fight the binding to see the right hand page. Its off to back-of-the-seat-pocket it goes. Have you noticed the age of the folks on the back cover photo? All of a younger age group, and must be who Airstream is marketing too.
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JIM n CHRIS
‘62 Overlander 26 ft. ATW Yeager trailer #5289
"62 Airstream 22ft. ATW Hall trailer #83,’90 SQ Sream, ‘06 Bambi Q/S, Prevost Featherlite 45ft, GMC/ Bigfoot camper
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01-03-2012, 06:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,944
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I think the larger font in the new directory is intended for us old folks, who have a problem reading the little print in the old directories. I think we also need to market to the younger folks also, if we are intending to keep the club vital. I think the new format is good, and it saves us $12,000. Why didn't we do this years ago?
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01-03-2012, 07:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Personally, I would love to see it on line for registered, authenticated members of WBCCI. When we are on the road, we are on line wherever we have a signal. Looking up a number would be handy!!
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01-03-2012, 07:48 PM
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,363
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Great Idea...
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Originally Posted by Buttercup
Personally, I would love to see it on line for registered, authenticated members of WBCCI. When we are on the road, we are on line wherever we have a signal. Looking up a number would be handy!!
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Member: Hey, it's the 21st century - how about a smartphone App? While we're at it, how about renewing online and paying with PayPal or a credit card? Oh and another thing... how about updating the web site so members can obtain up to date information about rallies and caravans. Gee, the web site could even allow members to make suggestions to improve the club.
Int'l: Whoa! Hold your horses now parder - that's getting a little too trendy! If it's not printed, and sent via USPS we don't want it. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Member: Doh, I forgot, this is WBCCI. What was I thinkin'? Here's my signed check, sent via snail mail. I'll get back in line sir, read my little blue book, and hope there are still openings for the rally I want to attend.
Back to the OP. I forgot to renew my membership until today. So I won't be receiving the book/directory for a while. I'll just have to wait and see what the fabulous printed information looks like.
Lucius
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01-03-2012, 08:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
1971 27' Overlander
1957 22' Caravanner
Jourdanton
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 215
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The post office mangled the front and back covers of ours. I do like the larger print.
Paula
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01-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Lucius,
Actually, I think you will see most of the things on your list soon - real soon (renewing will take a little longer). New site is on the way, manned by all WBCCI volonteers (the way it should be). And that change is fully supported by the leadership. It will save the club a ton of money.
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Originally Posted by nvestysly
Member: Hey, it's the 21st century - how about a smartphone App? While we're at it, how about renewing online and paying with PayPal or a credit card? Oh and another thing... how about updating the web site so members can obtain up to date information about rallies and caravans. Gee, the web site could even allow members to make suggestions to improve the club.
Int'l: Whoa! Hold your horses now parder - that's getting a little too trendy! If it's not printed, and sent via USPS we don't want it. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Member: Doh, I forgot, this is WBCCI. What was I thinkin'? Here's my signed check, sent via snail mail. I'll get back in line sir, read my little blue book, and hope there are still openings for the rally I want to attend.
Back to the OP. I forgot to renew my membership until today. So I won't be receiving the book/directory for a while. I'll just have to wait and see what the fabulous printed information looks like.
Lucius
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01-03-2012, 10:30 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 899
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Our Beaver Ambassador Club ( Beaver Motorcoach Club, and you have to have a Beaver Coach to belong, fiberglass or stainless) membership directory has been "on-line" for two years, now.
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JIM n CHRIS
‘62 Overlander 26 ft. ATW Yeager trailer #5289
"62 Airstream 22ft. ATW Hall trailer #83,’90 SQ Sream, ‘06 Bambi Q/S, Prevost Featherlite 45ft, GMC/ Bigfoot camper
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01-04-2012, 07:26 AM
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Rivet Master
1970 23' Safari
2005 30' Classic
1986 31' Sovereign
Lorain
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,645
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Renewel and new memberships can be done online and paid for via credit card or PayPal thru NOVA if you desire.
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01-04-2012, 09:08 AM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Laramie
, Wyoming
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloradobus
Our Beaver Ambassador Club ( Beaver Motorcoach Club, and you have to have a Beaver Coach to belong, fiberglass or stainless) membership directory has been "on-line" for two years, now.
Attachment 148272
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A new addition?
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Antique Pedaler
2021 Caravel 20 FB
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01-04-2012, 05:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 899
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Cherie, we have had this coach over 2 years. Sold the 45 footer after we bought this one.
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JIM n CHRIS
‘62 Overlander 26 ft. ATW Yeager trailer #5289
"62 Airstream 22ft. ATW Hall trailer #83,’90 SQ Sream, ‘06 Bambi Q/S, Prevost Featherlite 45ft, GMC/ Bigfoot camper
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01-04-2012, 06:00 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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How many members are left?
Gene
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01-04-2012, 06:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,635
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Emerick
I like it and the $12,000 it is to save the club. In the seat pocket is where it will go, if it even makes it into the vehicle. I never seem to be able to remember to put it in the truck each year................
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We would rather they save the $12,000 somewhere else and keep the old format which fit nicely into the door pocket. Putting it in the pocket behind the seat is a poor option when you are going down the road and want to look up a number you see while under way.
Ours also had the front cover torn to pieces by the post office.
Very disappointed. We will just use last year's.
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01-04-2012, 11:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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The new version looks nice and thankfully the caravan listings are back in this years edition after being removed as a cost savings in 2011. We were concerned about whether the covers would make it thru the mail intact, but since we pay extra for first class postage it arrived on Christmas eve in great shape. It is unfortunate that we have had to do 1st class postage for over a year now because all of our Blue Berets were each arriving about a month late with mangled covers. That didn't start until about 2 years ago - before that they used to arrive without damage and in a timely fashion. Maybe our Blue Beret was a victim of US Post Office cost cutting.
I just wish we could still purchase (at extra cost) the optional spiral bound editions in the smaller size. We used to get one every year because they were easier to use than the glue bound standard edition. And the smaller size makes for easier stowage in both the Airstream and tow vehicle.
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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01-05-2012, 03:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
Anderson / Sun City
, Indiana / Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 444
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I cast a vote for a pdf format or App that I can have on my MacBook, iPad, or iPhone. I am tired of having so much paper to lug around. It wouldn't take a Freshman computer science major 2 hours to scan the entire directory and put it on the website to download.
Maybe the folks in the motorhomes with the underbay storage lockers have forgotten that Wally didn't intend for us to carry a lot of "stuff" in an Airstream.
This project should take little time or money to complete. As Larry the Cable Guy says "GetErDun"
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Mike Brumback
WBCCI #1200
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01-05-2012, 03:54 PM
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,363
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Some sort of electronic database that provides an app interface. The data could be sorted by name, WBCCI number, etc. You wouldn't need three or four different sections of a directory pre-sorted in different sequences. The data would simply be accessed with the app and sorted however you want it.
Just think... as members are added (yes, new members join from time to time) the data would be available immediately.
Looking for courtesy parking? Why thumb through pages when all you have to do is select the "nearby" (use current location) button.
The possibilities are nearly endless! Why is the WBCCI stuck in this printed, dark-ages period? I'd love to submit this in a courteous manner as a suggestion to WBCCI. Oh yeah, that's right, the WBCCI doesn't have an online forum. Hmmm... guess I'd have to bring it up to the unit president, the unit would have to vote, the region V.P. would be involved, it would be tabled a time or two.... ARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
What gives?
So as it stands now, I will not see a directory for several months. My check is in snail mail, the unit will send the information to headquarters, at some point I'll receive the new directory, but my information will not be in the directory. Granted, it's my fault that I did not renew "in time." But why does there have to be a "time?" Why isn't the time now and the database is updated as needed.
I really do like WBCCI and we plan to remain members but this is certainly a difficult club to deal with.
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01-05-2012, 05:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 30' Sovereign
1959 18' "Footer"
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Brussels
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 615
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Well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Foster
We would rather they save the $12,000 somewhere else and keep the old format which fit nicely into the door pocket. Putting it in the pocket behind the seat is a poor option when you are going down the road and want to look up a number you see while under way.
Ours also had the front cover torn to pieces by the post office.
Very disappointed. We will just use last year's.
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Hmmm, Mine came in undamaged, cover is fine. I guess the postal employees in WI do a better job than CA! For $12,000 I can ask the wife to reach around the seat and get it. Then again I have never really cared "who" is going the other way but I do care that its an AIRSTREAM! I guess numbers mean nothing to me anymore.......
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I'm NOT an old man.............
Ed
54 Flying Cloud
59 Traveler
68 Sovereign
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01-06-2012, 11:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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2 of our 3 directories arrived in perfect condition. Where is the 3rd one???
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01-06-2012, 11:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1998 31' Excella 1000
1979 23' Safari
Mooresville
, Indiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 598
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Mine arrive undamaged, but I was surprised that is was not taped shut, I thought that was a post office requirement now, but maybe that is only for first class delivery.
I like the new format, you can read it much better with the larger font, and it still fits in the glove box.
Damon
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