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Old 01-07-2011, 04:45 PM   #43
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A revised and updated Adjenda for the Winter IBT meeting is now available at http://wbcci.org/documents/IBT%20Age...%20revised.pdf

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Thanks, Damon.

Still no report from the Constitution and Bylaws Committee (or it's little brother, the Constitution and Bylaws Revision Committee), but the MoHo Committee report is in the revised agenda.

Here are the critical paragraphs:

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The other alternative would be for a motion be presented to allow any member with a current Airstream Motor Home to replace it with another brand class A coach.

(Rational) (sic) We should represent all Members in the club as it was not their faut (sic) that Airstream decided not to build class A motor homes. We have many members who are motor home owners who are life time members.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:45 PM   #44
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According the the agenda, there is one grievance issue. I have it from a very close source that the grievance has been reviewed was determined to be based upon heresay and has therefore been denied.
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:25 AM   #45
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According the the agenda, there is one grievance issue. I have it from a very close source that the grievance has been reviewed was determined to be based upon heresay and has therefore been denied.
I thought grievances were supposed to be confidential.

FYI, your "very close source" may have committed a grievable offense.

YOU may be obligated to give up your source now...

(Aren't these grievance procedures fun?! )
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:30 AM   #46
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Who was the Grievance against and what was it about?

Inquiring minds want to know
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There should be an intraclub for those of us have had a grievance filed against us for one reason or another!
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Thanks, Damon.

Still no report from the Constitution and Bylaws Committee
That's because it's a special committee reporting only to the Exec Board.

I will say the Committees Revision is just now been completed.

It will be presented to the Exec Board members, it is then up to them to move forward on our recommended re-write.

IMO it will move forward!
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:16 PM   #49
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There should be an intraclub for those of us have had a grievance filed against us for one reason or another!
But how do you join an intraclub after you've been expelled?

(Setting aside the larger question, of why you would want to.)
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That's because it's a special committee reporting only to the Exec Board.

I will say the Committees Revision is just now been completed.

It will be presented to the Exec Board members, it is then up to them to move forward on our recommended re-write.

IMO it will move forward!
That's kinda scary. If the members KNEW what was in it I bet it would be a lot more likely to move forward.
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I think I understand this right. At the Mid-Winter IBT Meeting you have a group of about ˝ dozen people who did a “re-write” of the existing WBCCI By-Laws (which I understand have been in place since the club was formed over 50 years ago with changes begin made a little at a time through the years) and this group will present a new “re-write” set of “By-Laws” for another group of about 12 to review. That group of 12 gets to decided if they wish to put these “By-Laws/policies” into place which will govern a club of 6000 members and the 6000 members have no choice in the matter whether or not they (as a club) agree or disagree with the changes that could be made.

And there's a chance they as a club (the 6000 members) do not even get the chance to review these new WBCCI By-Laws and give their feedback?

It would have been nice to have had the new "re-write" posted on the WBCCI website for 30 days to allow the members at least a chance to review them and possibly provide feedback.

Is there any chance of that happening?
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Original Constitution?

This has been gnawing at me for some time now. I’ve searched and haven’t found a readily available answer.
Does anyone know of a source for a copy of the original constitution? When and what were the first by-laws?
The document is a rather cumbersome read. The Illinois constitution has had 27 amendments in its current 40-year incarnation. How many for the WBCCI?
As a bit of an historian, I find it interesting to look at the roots of something to understand how the flowers turned out.

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Paul R U trying to stir up trouble?

That's not the way it works as you very well know.

It is not the IBT group of 12 it is the Exec group of 7

They would move it forward to members/delegates, wherein a copy would be published for a review to vote upon.
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So the new Bylaws will be approved by the delegates? Why, since the IBT has complete control over the contents of the Bylaws?

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Paul R U trying to stir up trouble?

That's not the way it works as you very well know.

It is not the IBT group of 12 it is the Exec group of 7

They would move it forward to members/delegates, wherein a copy would be published for a review to vote upon.
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Does anyone know of a source for a copy of the original constitution? When and what were the first by-laws?
The document is a rather cumbersome read.
Tom, I haven't seen the original, try HQ?

The new Bylaws are streamlined very much compared to the old.
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So the new Bylaws will be approved by the delegates? Why, since the IBT has complete control over the contents of the Bylaws?

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