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Old 04-25-2008, 08:30 PM
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Have to disagree about four winns having a better class "A" MH than airstream. As you know, the chassis and body are pretty standard with MHs. It is the interior and the quality of components installed, much like your AS trailer. My wife loves the hickory cabinetry and solid wood doors on ours.
We have looked at the mandalay and don't think it has the quality ours does. It does have four slideouts though. The reason AS did not sell more MHs was strictly a lack of marketing. Nobody out there knew they made a MH and it won't pay the bills when you make 3 or 4 a month. Dave at AS told me they could not afford the R&D to install four slideouts,tag axles,etc. Our next MH will be a used prevost or a country coach affinity. We do feel bad AS class "A" never got off the ground. We have a lot of friends in FMCA and we all have a problem or two with quality just like your trailer. I am not offended by your remark, just felt I needed to correct the quality issue. We have looked at and compared a lot of MHs and mandalay and four winns would not be our choice for a replacement.

Allow me to inject a little on the 'quality' issue concerning motor homes. These big rigs are my daily deal.......I'm in, underneath and thoroughly thru these expensive creations every day. bfed, if it's true quality that you're after, I would seriously look at a used Newell Coach.

These are purpose-built as motor homes on a chassis that is specifically made to BE a motor home by Newell......not Spartan, Freightliner, Ford or any other chassis manufacturer. They are created from scratch as a motor home, not a bus conversion like a Prevost. They are built 100% in the USA in Miami, Oklahoma and having worked on just about every type of MoHo out there, I truly believe that they are the finest built rig on the market. Newells are also the easiest to work on from my side of things............YMMV
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:43 PM
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I love it! The Motorhome Issue . . . .

I arrived in Perry last year completely oblivious to this issue. My neighbor in Perry: Leo of New York. He promptly informed me that the only reason he even came to hot, ant infested place was to lead the charge in defeating the motorhome issue. I was quickly educated as to what the heck he was talking about. I respect his passion and agreed with his position.

I have a little bit of sympathy for the old crowd pushing the motorhomes. They have a long history with WBCCI and whatever their twisted reasons have decided monster motor homes better fit their needs. Who am I to dispute their choices? Really.

Of course it's my passion for rounded aluminum trailers that got me to Perry to begin with. All the same, everyone was pretty nice regardless of the kind of rig they were in. Even those folks in the big ugly motorhomes with Airstream labels on them!

I'll maintain my WBCCI membership whether this issue lives or dies, though I too hope it dies. I'll also be joining Tin Can Tourists before too long.

Trailerites and Motorhome-ites unite! Let's all just get along.

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Old 04-26-2008, 08:14 AM
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Not sure exactly what you're asking. . . did you see post 276 and subsequent on this thread? The motion was just voted down by a large majority at the Region 3 rally. Cheers, Nuvi

Nuvi - Thanks. No, I was in a rush and didn't scroll back for the answer to my own question, as I should have.

I appreciate you taking the time to wake me up!!
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Old 04-26-2008, 05:59 PM
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LEWSTER'
Thanks for the advice. Bill Davis from "Bill Davis Racing" said the same thing.
Used Newells are a little harder to find, but will consider your advice when the time comes. Country Coach also builds their MHs from the ground up and I think Monaco does also.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:51 AM
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Thanks for the advice. Bill Davis from "Bill Davis Racing" said the same thing.
Used Newells are a little harder to find, but will consider your advice when the time comes. Country Coach also builds their MHs from the ground up and I think Monaco does also.

True!

But having full-timed in a Monaco Dynasty for 5 years, I can tell you that there is no comparison in the design, component placement, ease of maintanance and overall fit/finish between Monaco, Country Coach or any othe fiberglass-sided coach and a Newell.

If I ever get another MoHo....it will surely be a Newell (after I win the lottery, of course! )
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:38 PM
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great idea!

Name:  moho-issue.jpg
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Size:  22.4 KBRoman's idea on how to solve two problems!!!

1) Airstream has a ton of Basecamps that they need to get rid of
2) The silly moho vs airstreamer thing....
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:10 PM
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well, there you go. problem solved
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:58 AM
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Leo, Have to disagree about four winns having a better class "A" MH than airstream.

Hey Fred! I'm in no position to critique one MoHo from another. I was merely summarizing what I heard from that euphoric crowd at the '06 Mid-Winter IBT meeting. All of those WBCCI Four Winds wannabees...

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:22 AM
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Attachment 59066Roman's idea on how to solve two problems!!!

1) Airstream has a ton of Basecamps that they need to get rid of
2) The silly moho vs airstreamer thing....

I was really hoping no one would bring this up.

Good news is that as of this morning this issue is once again put aside. The Region vote did not pass.
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