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As an owner of a 2004 396XL, let me chime in here. I agree with all these posts and am opposed to any amendment allowing SOB MHs being allowed in WBCCI. We did not renew our membership because of the politics and insistance of the IBT to pass an amendment. We did get treated like red headed stepchildren at some WBCCI functions, but not our own unit. Some refer to our motorhome as the mothership.
Airboss, we are not that old(a little maybe). It is my opinion that the WBCCI is for AS trailer owners and we MH owners are invited guests and should act that way, not the other way around which is the attitude of the IBT at this time.
FYI. there are 7 brand new AS MHs for sale right now at reduced prices.
Thats right Buck. Your still a young puppy!!!
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It is my opinion that the WBCCI is for AS trailer owners and we MH owners are invited guests and should act that way..."
I think you're being a little hard on yourself on that one. During that controversy, I believe in the early 90's?, whatever members strongly opposed allowing MHs into the club are likely long gone, or have come to grips with the situation. The bottom line today is that if you own an Airstream (and today ANYTHING they build qualifies) you are a welcome member of the WBCCI.
I can't imagine anybody taking any other position. There are probably a great many that disregard the MHs as being an Airstream (brand expansion vs what for decades WAS an Airstream), but I'm sure every member ultimately supports whatever the workers in Jackson Center build. I can't imagine any member passing whatever feeling they might have about the MH onto their owners.
It's only when the IBT chooses to champion an unjust cause, one that will destroy the WBCCI, that members wind up pointing fingers at product, and feelings inadvertently get hurt.
I've said it before, I'll say it again -- I'll park in your shade any day!
WBCCI is for any Airstream and I did not mean to infer otherwise. My point being, Airstream comes and goes in the MH market and the trailers remain the icon. The IBT fails to understand that. Most of my friends are AS trailer owners and cherish their trailers a little more than we cherish our MH. and for good reason. To the wife and I, our MH is just a vehicle to get us from point A to point B with a little comfort. We don't really have that attachment we see with AS trailer owners.
Thank you Leo. One day we hope we have the pleasure to park next to you and converse a little.
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WBCCI is for any Airstream... Most of my friends are AS trailer owners and cherish their trailers a little more than we cherish our MH. and for good reason. To the wife and I, our MH is just a vehicle to get us from point A to point B with a little comfort.
You've got me thinking... Couldn't the estranged Airstream MH folks just pull a little Bambi behind a new, flavor of the day, non-Airstream MH "tow vehicle" and continue to attend WBCCI events as their heart desires?
Now you've got me thinking. Just imagine, wouldn't it be cool if the leadership was made up of Bambis and vintage units and AS motorhomes interspersed on site and the kind of people who like to CAMP and have bonfires and a tent for all and mingle during Internationals, maybe the attendence would increase. Or if caravans were pay as you go and shorter. Oh wait... that formal catered dinner attire wouldn't fit in the closets and I suspect there would not be enough awards, high places or perks given out to satisfy...
With fuel costs as they are the saavy way to do business would be online without theatrics and reimbursement of miles for travel under the guise of necessity and leave rallies for fun and fellowship and everyone on their own dime.
The MH folks sure could tow an AS product but they wouldn't fit the designated parking spaces or save that bundle they want to save by buying SOBs. To them it is so much easier and logical to change the club saying it isn't about product but about friends (their friends.) The pomp and ceremony has gone to their heads and they are drunk with self-importance and power.
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Last edited by wheel interested : 03-20-2008 at 12:00 PM.
You've got me thinking... Couldn't the estranged Airstream MH folks just pull a little Bambi behind a new, flavor of the day, non-Airstream MH "tow vehicle" and continue to attend WBCCI events as their heart desires?
Some people have tried that a few years back, but guess who told them they couldn't do that? The IBT said if you use an SOB RV as a tow vehicle you MUST use the Airstream to live in (as in sleep, lounge, etc.). I believe this occurred at least once at International tho' I don't know which one. Now who is it that wants to let you "live" in an SOB RV WITHOUT TOWING THE AIRSTREAM? There is nothing so constant as change!
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... During that controversy, I believe in the early 90's?, whatever members strongly opposed allowing MHs into the club are likely long gone, or have come to grips with the situation. The bottom line today is that if you own an Airstream (and today ANYTHING they build qualifies) you are a welcome member of the WBCCI.
I can't imagine anybody taking any other position. ...
Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm repeating what I've been told, but aren't some of those members that strongly opposed allowing MHs into the club in the 90's or whenever, the ones that now drive motorhomes, are members of the IBT, and the very ones that want to amend the constitution to allow SOB motorhomes into the WBCCI?
Talk about irony!
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WBCCI is for any Airstream and I did not mean to infer otherwise. My point being, Airstream comes and goes in the MH market and the trailers remain the icon. The IBT fails to understand that. Most of my friends are AS trailer owners and cherish their trailers a little more than we cherish our MH. and for good reason. To the wife and I, our MH is just a vehicle to get us from point A to point B with a little comfort. We don't really have that attachment we see with AS trailer owners.
Thank you Leo. One day we hope we have the pleasure to park next to you and converse a little.
A little comfort???????????? Buck you forget some of us have been in your MoHo.. I think a little comfert is a huge understatement in this case!!! That thing is like the Taj Mahal only a little nicer if you ask me..
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"If your not living life on the edge... Your taking up too much room"
BOZEMAN OR BUST
"IF YOUR NOT THE LEAD DOG..THE VIEW NEVER CHANGES" Operation "SAVE RUDY" Strike Team (Charter Member) RALPH, KW8G.....WBCCI # 4201 Metro Detroit & 4CU
Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm repeating what I've been told, but aren't some of those members that strongly opposed allowing MHs into the club in the 90's or whenever, the ones that now drive motorhomes, are members of the IBT, and the very ones that want to amend the constitution to allow SOB motorhomes into the WBCCI?
Talk about irony!
Well if it were, for all their fussing they lost then and for all their fussing they will lose now. Just the same bunch of losers? I wonder.
__________________ Carol
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Come'on Carol,Ralph,Minnie's Mate and anybody else. " LETS GO CAMPING".
I can't take this weather anymore. If I spend next winter in MI, please shoot me Ralph. I'm in the process right now of getting rid of a few irons in the fire.
I am going to run for township trustee though. Wish me luck. I can't be president of WBCCI so township trustee is the next best thing.
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Gosh Buck, I thought you knew better then that...Buck I will shoot ya with a Blue Noodle if you stay in this crap for another winter.. Oh wait..... I bet Grace will do it for me so never mind...Yes Buck, Lets go camping..Im sooooooooo ready!!!
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"If your not living life on the edge... Your taking up too much room"
BOZEMAN OR BUST
"IF YOUR NOT THE LEAD DOG..THE VIEW NEVER CHANGES" Operation "SAVE RUDY" Strike Team (Charter Member) RALPH, KW8G.....WBCCI # 4201 Metro Detroit & 4CU
Me too! Lead us out of here will you Buck, we always have a good time. Michiganders may say no to the WBCCI but we never say no to having fun! You can be caravan leader. You'll be easy to see.
__________________ Carol
"A traveler without observation is a bird without wings.”