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Old 10-20-2003, 11:12 PM   #1
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Question Starting off right with a new CCD 28'

I am proud to be picking up my brand new shiney 2003 CCD 28 and and so far I've gotten a Reese Straight line hitch (1200 lb) and a Prodigy Brake Controller for our Suburban.

I want to make sure I don't do something stupid (this is my first towing of anything) and I want to make sure I start the CCD 28 off right. Are there any things I should do that aren't in the manual?

All comments appreciated.

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Old 10-20-2003, 11:16 PM   #2
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First of all congratulations!!

Towing:
You may want to search here in the forums for towing. There are several threads all rich in great info. Read them trough I'm sure you'll find a lot that applies to your situation.

28' CCD:
You may also want to check the thread on quality issues on 2004 models. You'll find it in the last 30 posts.

Good luck!
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Old 10-20-2003, 11:23 PM   #3
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Exclamation Towing mirrors...

Gerry, The first thing I noticed towing our new 22' CCD home was that I really needed the extended towing mirrors I had declined purchasing at the AS dealer. I believe your 28' is even a bit wider then the 22'. Attempting to pass without them is a scary experience.
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Old 12-29-2003, 09:22 PM   #4
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New 28' CCD

I'm thinking of buing a 28' CCD but I'm hesitant about towing issues. Price is a factor and it's going to be the only vehicle I have to drive. How did your 28' tow with your suburban?
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Starting off right with a new CCD 28

Greetings Robtan!

Welcome to the Forums!

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How did your 28' tow with your suburban?
With a trailer that can have a gross weight over 8,000 pounds, the preparation of the Suburban is critical. A half-ton (C/K 1500) Suburban will not have a high enough trailer tow rating to handle a trailer of this size within its factory weight rating. A properly prepared C/K 2500 Suburban, however, can have an adequate trailer tow rating for a trailer of this size. With the largest engine available, special heavy duty trailering package, and 4.10 differential gearing my K2500 Suburban has a 10,000 pound trailer tow rating.

If you do a search of the Forum for tow vehicles, you will find a number of discussions of selecting and preparing a tow vehicle. There is something of a consensus that it can be quite desirable to have a cushion of 10% to 20% over the maximum anticipated towed weight when considering the trailer tow rating of a tow vehicle. From personal experience, I can say that a tow vehicle that is maxxed out on its trailer tow rating does not provide a comfortable vacation experience - - my previous tow vehicle, a K1500 Z-71 Chevrolet pickup had a 6,000 pound trailer towing package and my Overlander has a gross weight right at 6,000 pounds - - towing in the Rocky Mountains determined that the truck was in for immenent replacement as it couldn't maintain anything approaching a safe speed in the mountains - - I was passed by fully loaded logging trucks and was down to less than 20 MPH when entering the Eisenhower Tunnel on I-70.

Beyond the trailer tow package, there are a number of other issues in preparing the tow vehicle. A reputable, experienced dealer can be quite helpful with selection of the hitch, sway control, towing mirrors, etc. If you are considering ordering a new Suburban, there is a factory optional set of towing mirrors called "Power Vision Towing Mirrors" that can greatly simplify the towing experience as they are electrically adjustable from inside your tow vehicle.

With the necessary trailer towing options, a C/K 2500 series Suburban should make a fine tow vehicle for a 28' CCD trailer. With the smaller C/K 1500 series, you will face potential overload and long-term durability issues. (IMHO)

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Old 12-30-2003, 09:29 AM   #6
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I agree with Kevin, the 2004 1500 Burb for comparison is rated at 8400lbs 4x2 and 8200 4x4 with the smaller engines. With the 3/4 ton you start to see weights upwards of 9000 to 10000 lbs. The one area I am not sure I agree is with the 4.10 gears. They are better, however the 3.73s are a great gear too and might provide more than ample grunt if properly equipped with the correct engine/trans/tires, trailer pkg, etc.

There are three complaints you never hear:

It has too much power.

It can tow too much weight.

It gets too good gas mileage to be true.

If you can afford it, a tow vehicle that is a bit more than is required is not a bad thing in my book.


Also, this may sound a bit strange, but if you have no exp towing, go rent a covered U-Haul or something in the range of 6x12 and take it to a parking lot and practice backing up, turning, evasive manuvering, etc. 10 years ago, before getting my boat, I used to move myself and my friends with those U-Haul type trailers. Got a lot of great practice so that when I got my boat, I knew most of what to expect.....when I picked up the Airstream last Feb, it was a piece of cake.

Bang up a moving trailer for practice, not your shiney new Airstream.

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My CCD 28 and 1500 Subarban revisited

I started this thread a few years ago and I have some comments.

I purchased a used Suburban 2001 with 50,000 miles on it, with the smallest gasoline engine available (6.3 liters I believe, 327 CID) and the wrong rear end (a 3.71 I believe) and I have since gone to Alaska, New Foundland, Florida (twice) and otherwise put at least 35,000 miles on it towing the trailer. The Suburban has 110,000 miles on it now.

I've been over the Raton pass in New Mexico (el 7,834 feet), over the Rockies (4 times), the backroads of New Hampshire, etc. etc.

I do travel 55 to 60 where ever I go, I do get down into second gear on occasion but I never have had any issues with pulling my 2004 CCD 28 with full tanks and 1,000 lbs of gear in it.

Tomorrow I'd buy my rig again (a 1500 Suburban) and have no reservations on taking her anywhere. I probably wouldn't have gotten 4 wheel drive, but it came with the car.
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Glad you are getting such good service out of your Burb AND trailer. Also glad that you're still with us! Keep us posted on your progress and travels........
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Thanks for the update on your Suburban's performance pulling your 28' CCD!
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