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09-22-2007, 04:48 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
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Electric trailer dolly recommendation
Howdy Folks. I have a 22' International ccd, 2003. I need a recomendation for a electric trailer dolly. My ccd needs to be moved straight, forward and or backward 25'. The site is concret, the site is leval. Need the dolly because the trailer site is not big enought for the TV and the trailer and I'm to old to pull it all with a bicycle like the old AS picture! Any recomdations? The trailer hitch will be a Draw Tite brand if that is of some help. The Power Caster brand, model PC-2 looks like it might work. Thanks folks, Jim
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07-10-2008, 12:09 PM
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Lafayette
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Join Date: May 2008
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How did the electric dolly work out?
Hi,
We are looking for an electric dolly too. We found the Model PC-2 Power Caster on the web. Did you get that one?
Nathan
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07-15-2008, 10:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
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Pc-2
Yes, I got the PC-2. I am getting better at moving the AS around with it, but it would not work real well if the AS was NOT on leval ground, concret driveway. Be sure the tire is inflated all the way to the recomended leval other wise you will be in trouble trying to get it to move the AS. Moving the AS with it is not a chore I look forward to, but its only when hitching and unhiching it, pretty much just backward and forward, not any real turning. The cost of the PC-2 out ways the cost of having to pay to have the AS in storage, and not just in my backyard where it can also double as a spare guest bedroom a few times per year, have fun with your AS. Jim
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07-15-2008, 11:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Goertzen
Yes, I got the PC-2. I am getting better at moving the AS around with it, but it would not work real well if the AS was NOT on leval ground, concret driveway. Be sure the tire is inflated all the way to the recomended leval other wise you will be in trouble trying to get it to move the AS. Moving the AS with it is not a chore I look forward to, but its only when hitching and unhiching it, pretty much just backward and forward, not any real turning. The cost of the PC-2 out ways the cost of having to pay to have the AS in storage, and not just in my backyard where it can also double as a spare guest bedroom a few times per year, have fun with your AS. Jim
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Our experience has been exactly the same as Jim's, except we have used our PC-2 very successfully for several years to turn the trailer around in addition to backing it through a very tight slot. The tire is high pressure, so it needs to be re-inflated every time the PC-2 is used. We use the adapter (from Power Caster) for our Hensley hitch.
Do not even think about using the PC-2 on a sloping driveway! We have a couple of spots with a slight slope and my wife stands by with chocks just in case.
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07-15-2008, 11:14 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Goertzen
Yes, I got the PC-2. I am getting better at moving the AS around with it, but it would not work real well if the AS was NOT on leval ground, concret driveway. Be sure the tire is inflated all the way to the recomended leval other wise you will be in trouble trying to get it to move the AS. Moving the AS with it is not a chore I look forward to, but its only when hitching and unhiching it, pretty much just backward and forward, not any real turning. The cost of the PC-2 out ways the cost of having to pay to have the AS in storage, and not just in my backyard where it can also double as a spare guest bedroom a few times per year, have fun with your AS. Jim
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Electric trailer dollies, are extremely dangerous, except for a single axle trailer.
With a multi-axle trailer, should you decide to make even the slightest turn, the tire side forces will scoot the trailer and you sideways, faster than you can count to one.
Andy
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07-15-2008, 11:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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I'd go to the heavier PC-3 (duel wheel) for the 23'. I have a pc-2 for my 18 ft boat and love it. The PC-3 also has provisions for using the electric brakes. A huge back and heart saver for me!
Marc
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07-15-2008, 02:12 PM
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New Member
2008 16' Safari
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2
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Electric Dolly Feedback
Just a quick note to give you my feedback. We live right in the center of Los Angeles and our lots are very small. I have a driveway gate that is very narrow and it's impossible to drive the AS through it into the backyard.
I got a Powermover AC-5 because the company is within a short drive from here. It works great for me and I'd be lost without it! I have a small new AS that runs only about 3,000 lbs. I back into the driveway up a slight curb apron because it's easier for me. I think the grade, even though it's only curb height, is still pretty steep for electric power movers. Otherwise my lot is flat.
After I'm in the driveway, I unhitch and hook up the AC-5. It has three tires and it grips very well, even on the grass strip in the driveway. The only problem I had was with losing traction in some decomposed granite I have in the backyard portion of the driveway. To remedy this, I got 8 concrete patio block and buried them in the ground right in the path of the wheels. Now everything works great! We just got back yesterday from Sequoia National Park and it took me about 30 minutes to get the AS parked from start to finish.
The AC-5 is rated for 4,000- 4,500 lbs. It has a braking system that hooks up to your AS battery and it uses your trailer brakes. It also comes with an on-board 100 ft. cord which is handy.
Anyway, it was a little bit of an investment but it sure has paid off from a hassle standpoint. I don't have to rent storage space and I use the AS as an extra room in the backyard.
I hope this helps and good luck in your quest!
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07-15-2008, 05:50 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Powell
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 115
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If you have a double axle trailer only consider the PC3. I have a PC1 but broke the rim moving our 25 Safare. The side pressure us too great. Also pay the extra for the electric break switch. The breaks really help on very mild slops. Do not try anything very steep. Also you need paved surfaces. It does not work in gravel.
I use the PC3 all the time now. It does require significant effort to turn the dolly but sliding the trailer wheels is required a bit. I also have the hensley adapter which works well.
Hope this helps.
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07-17-2008, 12:17 AM
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New Member
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Lafayette
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Join Date: May 2008
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Power Mover AC-8; just got it for 28-foot AS.
Hi everyone. Thank you for the replies.
My son and I just returned home to the San Francisco bay area from Los Angeles with our newly purchased 2005 28-foot Safari from Southwest Coaches in Irvine. Just south of Irvine is San Clemente, CA where Power Movers Inc is located.
After completing the deal at Southwest, we drove to Power Movers, and Brady demonstrated the AC-8 we had ordered by phone. The trailer weight is 5800 to 6000 lbs, depending upon tank levels, and the tongue weight is 880-lbs (dry). We were able to turn around the trailer in a tight space. The stress on the sidewalls of the trailer tires is incredible. We would turn about 30 degrees, or so, before we had to relieve the stress by moving back and forth.
Once home, we were able to move the trailer around pretty easily with the AC-8, even for the first time and even. We did get some AC-8 tire spin when leveling the trailer with stacked 2x4's. It would climb one fine, but not two. Staggering the boards is my next step tomorrow. I have a floor jack that can work too.
Anyway, thanks for the message list, as it gave me confidence to go ahead with the purchase.
Nathan
Lafayette, CA
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08-23-2008, 09:12 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 87
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I have a 1973 31ft Airstream that I have to put in to an extremely tight space. I was thinking of buying a powercaster electric mover to help do the job. I found a used PC-2. Would that do the job? The trailer has a hitch weight of 490lbs and total weigth of 5035 lbs.
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08-23-2008, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinAir
I have a 1973 31ft Airstream that I have to put in to an extremely tight space. I was thinking of buying a powercaster electric mover to help do the job. I found a used PC-2. Would that do the job? The trailer has a hitch weight of 490lbs and total weigth of 5035 lbs.
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A trailer dolly is great, "for a single axle trailer."
When you try that with a tandem, it will flip you before your can blink an eye.
more than likely, you will also be injured by it.
Install a front hitch on your tow vehicle. Now you have the power and visibilty to see where your going.
Some owners install the front hitch, offset to the right side of the TV, for even greater visibility.
Andy
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08-23-2008, 12:10 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 376
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Andy - I don't understand - why would it flip you?
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08-23-2008, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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i think he'll tell you that when turning, the tires drag sideways and will try to return the nose of the trailer to the direction it came from. applying something to let the tires slide, like sand might help or make it slippery when you need traction in that area. a few layers of cardboard will work too. waxed boxes (produce) work best :-)
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08-23-2008, 07:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1973 25' Tradewind
Romulus
, New York
Join Date: Feb 2008
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I agree with the front receiver hitch on your tow vehicle. It is amazing the control you have when backing it up. Think airplane towmotor--it is amazing
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08-26-2008, 11:37 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
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I wish I had known more about my PC2 vs a PC3 when I got the PC2 etc. I move a 22' AS, and I got sweaty hands just reading about how it is not good to move a twin axile trailer with it, which is what I have. That being said, I will do more study. It seems that the major danger is turning the AS with the PC2, I don't, just straight back 12-15' or forward 12-15', on leval sidewalk driveway, but I have never felt it was really all that good. I am leaving on a trip with the AS in a few days, will have to use the PC2 to back it up 12-15 to hook up the TV, but upon my hopfully safe return, anyone want to buy a barely used PC2?
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04-13-2009, 05:13 PM
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1 Rivet Member
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Middle of Somewhere
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Has anyone tried temporarily reducing the air pressure on one set of axles while moving it? that should in theory make it behave more like a single axle trailer. I know its also transferring all the weight to 2 tires / 1 axle, but if you're on a hard surface, and moving really slowly, it should be ok, shouldn't it? Jut remember to inflate the other tires once you're parked.
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04-13-2009, 05:17 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriilin
Has anyone tried temporarily reducing the air pressure on one set of axles while moving it? that should in theory make it behave more like a single axle trailer. I know its also transferring all the weight to 2 tires / 1 axle, but if you're on a hard surface, and moving really slowly, it should be ok, shouldn't it? Jut remember to inflate the other tires once you're parked.
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Should you reduce the tire pressure on one axle, when those tires twist in a turn, they quite well will break the bead it has with the wheel.
The bottom line, is simple. Don't.
Andy
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09-02-2010, 03:13 PM
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New Member
1966 26' Overlander
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Hi all,
This is my first reply but I'm sure it wont be my last. My wife and I just bought a new-to-us 1965 Overlander and a buddy of mine and I hauled it down from Carmel to Los Angeles. We are hoping to slide this trailer in the back garden while we renovate and at the moment it is in a spot that is just too tight to use a TV to manoeuvre. I've tried to contact GWB 320 as they seem to be near us (Fairfax and Olympic) to see if we could rent/borrow their electric dolly to nestle her in but I'm also wanting to see if there are any other LA AS owners who may have one of these units that they'd be willing to rent out for a day. I've tried most of the electric dolly manufacturers in Southern California and either they make custom units or they want an enormous deposit. Any help, advise, direction is much appreciated.
Thanks
Nathaniel
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02-29-2012, 03:30 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
A trailer dolly is great, "for a single axle trailer."
When you try that with a tandem, it will flip you before your can blink an eye.
more than likely, you will also be injured by it.
Install a front hitch on your tow vehicle. Now you have the power and visibilty to see where your going.
Some owners install the front hitch, offset to the right side of the TV, for even greater visibility.
Andy
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I don't understand why the same thing doesn't happen when backing up and turning using a tow vehicle??
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02-29-2012, 03:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWB 320
Just a quick note to give you my feedback. We live right in the center of Los Angeles and our lots are very small. I have a driveway gate that is very narrow and it's impossible to drive the AS through it into the backyard.
I got a Powermover AC-5 because the company is within a short drive from here. It works great for me and I'd be lost without it! I have a small new AS that runs only about 3,000 lbs. I back into the driveway up a slight curb apron because it's easier for me. I think the grade, even though it's only curb height, is still pretty steep for electric power movers. Otherwise my lot is flat.
After I'm in the driveway, I unhitch and hook up the AC-5. It has three tires and it grips very well, even on the grass strip in the driveway. The only problem I had was with losing traction in some decomposed granite I have in the backyard portion of the driveway. To remedy this, I got 8 concrete patio block and buried them in the ground right in the path of the wheels. Now everything works great! We just got back yesterday from Sequoia National Park and it took me about 30 minutes to get the AS parked from start to finish.
The AC-5 is rated for 4,000- 4,500 lbs. It has a braking system that hooks up to your AS battery and it uses your trailer brakes. It also comes with an on-board 100 ft. cord which is handy.
Anyway, it was a little bit of an investment but it sure has paid off from a hassle standpoint. I don't have to rent storage space and I use the AS as an extra room in the backyard.
I hope this helps and good luck in your quest!
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Based on this recommendation (and the one on the AC-8) I have ordered an AC-7. Should be ready for pickup this Saturday.
I have a light trailer, Sport 16, but have to move it around my backyard on grass and dirt. Fortunately not far. Maybe 20 feet or so, at a time. I know this is an old thread, but Brady is alive and well and still making these things at his San Clemente location, only. Apparently he closed down the one at Stanton, Calif.
I will come back and give a report after I get it and use it. Maybe even with pics.
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