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Old 09-27-2010, 11:49 AM   #71
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Today I'm working on the aluminum trim parts like above the step, the front holddown plate cover, the rear frame side covers, rear holddown/bumper door plate and the inner bumper cover across the rear crossmember. I will also finish the waste connections. The floor will have to wait until later in the week. Heavy rains predicted here on Tuesday. I am also off on a road trip because I don't have enough to do I bought another A/S. It's a 75 31' Soverign rear bath. I'm off to North Carolina tonight to pick it up. I'll be back on Wednesday morning and after some rest I'll get a good look at it and post acouple of pics. Here's a couple of shots from the ad. Too bad N.C. is in the opposite direction from MN or i would swing by for a peek at lilgirl. I don't often get south of the 49th but might this winter if the 73 is ready.Fat chance
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:08 PM   #72
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You're busted. (Welcome to the club.)
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:40 PM   #73
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I think it's called aluminitus. Another member said that he would sleep with a small piece of aluminum under his pillow while away on business trips.
My harem is growing. I'll soon have a fleet and qualify for cheaper insurance.
1) 1986 GMC Camper Van
2) 1973 Airstream Excella 500 31'
3) 1975 Airstream Soverign 31'
4) 2010 Ford F450 Crew Cab Dually Diesel
5) 1980 GMC 3500 Dump Truck
6) 1985 GMC 6000 Hydro Bucket Truck
7) 1973 Massey Ferguson Industrial Tractor/Loader/Backhoe
8) 1989 Kawasaki Mule
9) 2006 Ford Focus Wagon (For Mom)
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Old 09-27-2010, 02:11 PM   #74
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If you are blocking the frame at 4 locations, are you planning on the wheels supporting the center of the frame? That doesn't seem like it would provide rigid support when a load was applied because the tires would flex but the blocking wouldn't. I'd suggest a spacing beginning at the front end of the frame that would be 3.5', 7', 7', 7', and 3.5' to the back of the frame. That would give you equal spacing on the blocks and require six blocks instead of four.

I like your plan for dropping plumb lines. Sounds like it should work pretty well.

I noticed that about the Excella floor plan as well. I think mine was manufactured in April of 73, too. Now I wonder if the 73 service manual I ordered will do me any good or if I should have ordered a '74???

Keep us updated. It sure is a lot more fun to watch your progress than to actually do it myself..
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:57 PM   #75
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Boy are my arms tired.

I just flew in from North Caroilina.
Actually I drove here pulling the newest member of my fleet. It was'nt a good trip. I think I will sell this one as it seems like too much to take on right now. I heard from my friend who was interested in it and he is going to pass. The repairs are out of his budget.
Anyway no new progress on the 73 since Monday. I got three sheets of the floor installed before the rain started and then I left for N.C. If it's not raining tomorrow I will try to finish the floor install. Minor mods needed because the new fresh water tank fills from a different spot.
Here is the link to the new thread I have started on the 75

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Old 10-01-2010, 06:12 PM   #76
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WC - I thought you were kinda nuts before, but these last couple of posts have confirmed it... But, that's not a bad thing in my book.

Regarding the MN Math reference regarding how to calculate US Gals. That isn't mine - I found it someplace else in the forums, and then confirmed it on a conversion website.

Kay's response to your inny/outty question: Are we talking about belly buttons or tent bottoms? That was followed by a really weird look. If you made Boundary Water trips you'd understand. Of maybe just do a lot of tent camping...

I'm with Lew (again) regarding supporting the frame. Get her up off the tires so they don't give and throw things off. Great overall plan though!

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Old 10-05-2010, 06:44 PM   #77
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Hey M.C. I'm not crazy but I used to have a split personality. I'm alright now and so am I.
The formula is great. I hope the dimensions I gave you help you design and plan your grey tank.
Anyway I got a little more done on the 73 in the past couple of days. 6 out of 7 floor sheets are installed. The waste valves and the drain plumbing is complete. I also installed the ducting to heat the gray tank and stubbed it up through the floor. The black tank duct tees off the main duct in the bathroom and just drops throught the floor into the galvanized box. It will have to be installed later. I bought a new toilet flange and installed it today. I got all the double C channel installed along the sides except for one piece that will have to be installed after the last floor sheet is installed. I am visiting a shop in the morning to have some aluminium bent. This trim covers the frame rails from the bumper to the front edge of the kickdown plates. It is installed under the rearward edge of the last floor sheet. Once I have those few parts bent I can finish the floor install. I hope to have the shell back on the frame after this weekend is over.
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:26 PM   #78
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Looking so good it seems like it's almost a shame to put the rest back on!

Almost...
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:20 PM   #79
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That is one great looking frame and floor!! JOb very well done!!
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Thanks AAGE and Lew. Your right it does look to good to put a shell back on it but it will be a little cool and damp camping without a shell.

Lew I took your advice and got four more jack stands for a total of 12. I will block the frame in 6 points as you suggested. I don't intend on lifting the wheels of the ground because I am concerned about the weight of the axles and wheels causing the frame to sag down in the middle. I will use the wheels to level it side to side and then support the frame on either side of the axles to eliminate any flexing.
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:18 AM   #81
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You are right about "hanging" the wheels and axles from the frame. Maybe you can jack the frame up just enough so the weight of the wheels and axles rests mostly on the tires? That might take them out of the equation all together.

I hope I never have to go through a full shell off restoration on my frame, but thanks to your experience I know it's possible. I would just tow it out to Nebraska and spend a month in my brother-in-laws heated shop on his farm. My nephew is a welder. They both like Wisconsin beer, cheese and bratwurst, so I'm thinking the price would be just about right....

Hope all goes well as you reinstall the shell.
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:31 PM   #82
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Wow!!! That does look really, really nice!

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Old 10-08-2010, 02:56 PM   #83
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Thanks MC I jst finished installing the last floor sheet. I also got the trim pieces installed as well as the bumper and the door cover for the stinky.
I got all the fittings to the fresh water tank installed. Luckily I have a large selection of flair-it fittings in stock here. I got them from the last place I worked at. The company went bankrupt and I bought hundreds of RV parts for about $0.05 cents on the dollar.
I have one last task to do which is being done as I write this post. That is to seal up all the floor seams and screw and bolt holes with the rubberized paint from Sani-tred. This paint is fantastic but terribly expensive.
Then the chassis is ready for the shell.
One small problem I have to lift the shell another 6 inches to clear the wheel wells. I didn't take into consideration the rise in floor height with the new axles. I was going to install the wheel wells after the chassis was under the shell but decided that would be to difficult.
I will be lifting the shell in the morning. Once the chassis is underneath then I start aligning and leveling it as well as blocking it. With any luck the shell will sit on the chassis tomorrow night.
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Just a thought - load up the new trailer frame and floor with enough weight to lower it 6 inches. 15,000 lbs of rocks and boulders ought to do it! Ok, it's not a serious thought... but I couldn't resist.
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