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Old 08-01-2008, 07:33 AM   #15
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Some stuff ya just have to do yourself. We purchased our Overlander knowing full well that the axles had to be changed (which I just finished)and that the furnace and Water heat had not been lit in a while. Then the PO (pervious owner) kinda forgot a few other minor things he know full well that were there but never said anything.
But we got new tires and brakes and shocks(on junk axles) and a new fridge and AC.So some things ya just have to let slide
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:24 PM   #16
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DAMSTR8!!!
Yeah, the axles are my only true worry. Even then, maybe the back one is the only one that needs to be replaced. If the rear one is bad, the other two have to work 50% harder, and with the weight of the trailer, maybe they are parallel to the frame because they're taking up the slack of the rear one.
The nice thing is that there is a local AS dealer. I've been in communication with the dealer, and one of the reps there is really cool. The trailer has been seen at this dealer a few times in the last few years, so they know the history of it.
I'm going to go take my last look at it today, and then if I'm satisfied, I may put $500 to hold it and then do the mechanical this weekend. They still have to look at my 5er for trade, but it's in damn good condition, and can be moved right away.

Thank you to everyone who has helped me to this point. I belong, or have belonged, to two other forum sites for Dodges(about my 1998 2500 with Cummins power), and www.tdiclub.com for my 05 VW Golf TDi. Everyone on every single site has been great, and Airforums is no exception. Actually, I think you've all been better on here than the others!

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Some stuff ya just have to do yourself. We purchased our Overlander knowing full well that the axles had to be changed (which I just finished)and that the furnace and Water heat had not been lit in a while. Then the PO (pervious owner) kinda forgot a few other minor things he know full well that were there but never said anything.
But we got new tires and brakes and shocks(on junk axles) and a new fridge and AC.So some things ya just have to let slide
Have fun REMEMBER the only Stupid Question about Airstreams HERE is the ONE YOU DON'T ASK
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:27 PM   #17
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DAMSTR8!!!
Yeah, the axles are my only true worry. Even then, maybe the back one is the only one that needs to be replaced. If the rear one is bad, the other two have to work 50% harder, and with the weight of the trailer, maybe they are parallel to the frame because they're taking up the slack of the rear one.
Get the trailer on level pavement and have the frame parallel to the ground to check the axles. You can not just change one, it's all or nothing. The torque axles used on an Airstream have no way or transferring weight from one axle to another as a leaf spring system has. So if one axle is newer, Stronger, than the other it will through the balance point, and thus tongue weight, of the trailer off. On a tri axle this could get interesting depending on the location of the new axle.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:59 AM   #18
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I talked to the local dealer of Airstream today. The service manager told me that it's all or none. You can't replace just one. I've steeled myself that in the negotian phase, the current dealer will have to take care of minimally two, but hopefully three of the axles. My 5er is in damn near perfect mechanical condition, so I'm not going to go for having to pay around $4500 out of my own pocket to own this AS. I'll pay for one, but no more.
Other than that, I'm fairly close to making this trailer work. I'm excited, and so is my wife!
Well, gotta bounce. It's late and I have to drag the 5er out to the dealer to have them inspect it. With any luck they'll say it's worth around $20500 or so. I hope that by tomorrow I'll be a proud owner of a Airstream!
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:38 AM   #19
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Good Luck! Hope it works out for you...go FlytoFish!
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Old 08-02-2008, 05:58 PM   #20
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Well, after all the build up, the dealer can't make the numbers work. The took the trailer in on trade at 10k, they put 2k into it. The own the trailer for $12k. With the cost of three new axles at a total of $4500, that puts them at $16500. NADA retail is $13k. My trailers' trade value is at $20020. I needed to net $6000 back on the deal.
Well, the dealer isn't willing to budge on the price cause they can't take a loss. If they gave me $22k for my trade, and sold theirs for $16500 with new axles, I'd do it.
My next question is whether people are willing to pay lots over book for these trailers? Do I seem greedy for demanding a net of $6k? I don't know right now...
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:23 PM   #21
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Not sure about all your numbers but the axles retail for $2,400.00 for Hinchen axles and it takes about 2 hours for 2 people to install. A friend and I did it in my driveway. If you use Dexter axles you can beat that price on the axles but have a bit longer installation because 2 holes per axle have to be refitted.

Wait 28 days and go back. He will make the deal at the end of the month because the month and season will be over.
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:57 PM   #22
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Sell the 5er outright and offer 10k for the AS. Trade in left them room on the AS. Have axles installed for under 3k and laugh a LOT!
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:02 PM   #23
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Yeah, after my final negotiations with the dealership today, I basically told them to go pound sand. My last idea was to have them take my trade at $21k, or as low as $20500, I'll pay $12k for the AS, which is what they have into it. My 5th wheel retails at $26k via NADA, trade is at like $20k. The dealer was willing to offer me 18k for it. I will not work with this dealer again.
I've now got my 5er on Craigslist in the local Spokane market. We'll see if anyone wants to make a deal. I'll sit on it for the time being cause I've only got one more trip planned this year. If it doesn't sell, at least I've got a damn nice 5er. I'll try to sell it in the spring and then find an AS at that time.
Frickin dealers! They suck. If anyone is interested in the AS, which I recommend you'd lowball, it's at Freedom RV sales in Spokane. If anyone has any leads on an AS in the local area, potentially at a dealer, let me know. I'm so disgusted in the dealer, yet so sold on AS, I'm just upset, but oh well. There'll always be another that comes along.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:13 PM   #24
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i don't think that asking them to sell the AS for what they have into it is fair. your best bet might be to sell the 5er as you are and take the private sale profit and put it on the table for the dealer, one last time.
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:22 AM   #25
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Yeah, after my final negotiations with the dealership today, I basically told them to go pound sand. My last idea was to have them take my trade at $21k, or as low as $20500, I'll pay $12k for the AS, which is what they have into it. My 5th wheel retails at $26k via NADA, trade is at like $20k. The dealer was willing to offer me 18k for it. I will not work with this dealer again.
I've now got my 5er on Craigslist in the local Spokane market. We'll see if anyone wants to make a deal. I'll sit on it for the time being cause I've only got one more trip planned this year. If it doesn't sell, at least I've got a damn nice 5er. I'll try to sell it in the spring and then find an AS at that time.
Frickin dealers! They suck. If anyone is interested in the AS, which I recommend you'd lowball, it's at Freedom RV sales in Spokane. If anyone has any leads on an AS in the local area, potentially at a dealer, let me know. I'm so disgusted in the dealer, yet so sold on AS, I'm just upset, but oh well. There'll always be another that comes along.
FlytoFish...

I know you're disappointed but you gave it the best you could...if this AS isn't going to pan out, then it just means that something better is going to come along for you...stay positive and your eyes open and you'll get the AS you're supposed to have.

If you sell your 5er privately you'll probably get more cash for it...that's usually the case, anyway...and then you'll have more cash to put into an Airstream...

Don't give up the dream...good luck and keep us posted!
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:28 AM   #26
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Heck yeah, I'm not giving up the dream. The dealer was trying to low-ball me on the trade. I work for a local CU and we do business with the dealer. They said that they'd do the AS for no profit, but the Jayco, they're skimping on. I'll sell it outright and take that cash and find a nice AS somewhere close.
Oh well, I'm definitely sold on the AS trailers. My wife is too. We'll find something that's in good shape and make a deal after the Jayco sells. Thank you all for your help. I'm going to keep tabs on this site as there's so much information to review. Heck, I've even helped a buddy of mine with his AS after finding this site and he's had his for about three years.
Thanks again, and if someone comes across something nice in a 30' length, let me know!

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Well, just an update. I posted the 5th wheel on craigslist at this location: Beautiful 2002 Jayco Designer Legacy 3110 RLTS $26000obo with hitch!
And guess what, I have already had one very interested individual! With any luck, they'll be coming over on or near the end of the month to take a look at it. I know that's a ways off, but they sound very interested but are unable to come sooner as they're doing their daughters wedding here soon. I'm going to let the current dealer where I found the M35 cool off and maybe they'll come down a bit by the EOM if they still have it. I still like the trailer, and after talking with Andy at Inland RV, it sounds like axles will be much cheaper than I thought...
Like MLK Jr. said, "I have a dream..." I'm still dreaming, and that's of owning a AS trailer!
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Good for you! And keep the faith...it will lead you to your very own Airstream!
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