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Old 04-06-2019, 12:59 PM   #15
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Maybe the most significant change before ducted AC was the standard fully opening window. I believe this may go back to about 1984. What do you all think?

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Our used 1985 25' Sovereign had the new windows, very similar to the current 2014 FC20. In construction parlance, these would be called "awning" windows because they are hinged on top. We would not be able to live inside an Airstream which did not have these windows, affording large screened openings for great air flow.

The smaller OEM windows, half of which slides L/R to get the screened opening, are too dinky for air flow IMO.

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Old 04-06-2019, 07:28 PM   #16
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Hi TouringDan: I stumbled onto your 34 Excella makeover thread. Thought I would follow along. Interesting adaption of your vibrating saw for ceiling material removal. I've read several complaints concerning this material, and you are wise to include removal and replacement in your project.

As you know we have a 34 also. It is 1986 and called a Limited. The Excella was another option back then. Interesting how Airstream marketing changes names through the years. I think your Trade Wind is an International, my Overlander is an International, the Excella name came out in the late seventies, then the Limited. Not long after came the Classic. It is hard to keep up with.

Very good plan with the recliners up front. I think you will love them. I have a small recliner in our Limited, but the gaucho remains. It's my wife's trailer you know; her trailer, her rules.

I will learn more about our 86 as you progress with your project, just like I learned a lot about my old Trade Wind watching you in your Trade Wind project.

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Old 04-06-2019, 08:08 PM   #17
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The smaller OEM windows, half of which slides L/R to get the screened opening, are too dinky for air flow IMO.

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Peter

I completely agree. I looked at a 22’ Sport yesterday and it has four of those windows where just half of the bottom maybe 8” section of window opens. I think it is a huge mistake by Airstream that these are not awning windows that open fully to provide the necessary ventilation.

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Old 04-06-2019, 08:52 PM   #18
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My 25' Safari has those less than half high awning windows. Very little breeze comes through (except cold breezes in winter)
The solution is two Fantastic Fans to make a breeze in warm weather.
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Old 04-09-2019, 09:08 PM   #19
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Hi TouringDan: I stumbled onto your 34 Excella makeover thread. Thought I would follow along. Interesting adaption of your vibrating saw for ceiling material removal. I've read several complaints concerning this material, and you are wise to include removal and replacement in your project.



As you know we have a 34 also. It is 1986 and called a Limited. The Excella was another option back then. Interesting how Airstream marketing changes names through the years. I think your Trade Wind is an International, my Overlander is an International, the Excella name came out in the late seventies, then the Limited. Not long after came the Classic. It is hard to keep up with.



Very good plan with the recliners up front. I think you will love them. I have a small recliner in our Limited, but the gaucho remains. It's my wife's trailer you know; her trailer, her rules.



I will learn more about our 86 as you progress with your project, just like I learned a lot about my old Trade Wind watching you in your Trade Wind project.



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So glad that you will be following along.

I am really excited about this project. As you know I have created our Tradewind so that it suits our camping style. I plan to do the same with the 34’. It will be unique and will also suit our camping style. It will have similarities to the Tradewind- disc brakes, lots of lithium and lots of solar. Also like the Tradewind, it will have a 2,000 watt inverter that will run everything and we don’t plan on ever plugging in. Well at least that is our goal; we’ll see.

It will have many differences. The interior will be modern like a new Airstream, recliners in front with a cabinet hiding the lithium’s and inverter, three Maxx fans, two sky lights, all led ceiling recessed lighting, a double door fridge (maybe compressor cooled), Oceanaire blinds, reclaimed heart pine flooring, a large shower, porcelain toilet, queen bed, built in dinette and a mini split heat pump that will be much quieter than even the ducted AC.

I hope to have it completed by 2020 when it will be 25 years old and therefore vintage.

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Wow, Excella off grid. And a glamper at that. AirForums member Kirstrof is building an off grid 76 Sovereign. It is a 24 volt system. I don't understand many of the components selected, but his goal is not to plug in. We have an "off grid" house being constructed in our neighborhood. I don't know how that will all work out either. I guess I'm just an old fashioned kilowatt hour user. I hate it when the power goes out. Water pump quits, heat quits and the like.

It is fun to visit these old miner's log cabin ruins in the mountains around here. Chinked logs, a stone fireplace, maybe a window, about 12' square. They were off grid too.

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Thanks for the information about Kirstrof building an off grid 76 Sovereign. I will check out his thread. Us off grid folks need to learn from each other.

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