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Old 08-01-2011, 09:24 AM   #1
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Hello Experts,

While installing shelving in my cedar closet in my '92 Excella, I discovered what MIGHT be a problem. At the bottom of the closet, the back wall has separated from the side wall leaving a gap. Additionally, there is a similar problem in the kitchen by the sink - wall separating from outside wall.
IS THIS A PROBLEM? It has me worried about frame stuff.....I don't see the problem anywhere else. See pictures:
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:21 AM   #2
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Hello Experts,

While installing shelving in my cedar closet in my '92 Excella, I discovered what MIGHT be a problem. At the bottom of the closet, the back wall has separated from the side wall leaving a gap. Additionally, there is a similar problem in the kitchen by the sink - wall separating from outside wall.
IS THIS A PROBLEM? It has me worried about frame stuff.....I don't see the problem anywhere else. See pictures:
Yes, unfortunately, your Airstream has a "BAD" problem.

The walls separating from the shell, is caused by excessive flexing of the shell, and/or vibration.

Note that the failures are near the axles.

That flexing can be caused by excessively rated hitch bars, a super duty tow vehicle, unbalanced running gear, and/or axles that have had their rubber rods fail.

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Do you have any black-ring or missing interior liner pop-rivets?
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What is black-ring? I haven't noticed any rivets missing. It had new axles in 2009 (according to the PO). It has a Reese weight distributing hitch and I bought the tow vehicle from the PO which is a 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Quadcab.

Oh my - what do I do about this?
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What is black-ring? I haven't noticed any rivets missing. It had new axles in 2009 (according to the PO). It has a Reese weight distributing hitch and I bought the tow vehicle from the PO which is a 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Quadcab.

Oh my - what do I do about this?
What are the ratings of your hitch, etc.

To start with, your tow vehicle is tough enough to tow the Queen Mary.

Is your running gear balanced?

An Airstream, MUST have a soft ride, or else you pay the penalties.

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Now, I'm thinking about this - I have only owned this camper for about 4 weeks and I don't know when this bad problem came about.

Could it be that it was BEFORE 2009 when the PO had the new axles installed?

Will the damage get worse? Should I park it until it's fixed? Is it possible that it won't get any worse now that there are new axles?
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Don't obsess, don't park it....that's probably the reason the PO replaced the axle's.

Keep an eye out for pop-rivet heads laying on the floor after a trip.
Black ring= the residue from the aluminum rubbing where a PR has loosened.

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I checked it out - did see a rivet popped off inside the cupboard (over the wheel wells) where the microwave is and saw the black ring (only one) in a rivet next to it. I looked under the floor in the closet and the inside cover of the wheel well has some cracks and breaks right along the edge where it bends to attach to the wall - it has something going on. Checked the wheel well from the outside - doesn't seem to be compromised - has some tar like stuff on it (sealer?). Is there an inside wheel cover and an outside one? I felt around the outside one and don't seem to feel any of the inside cracks.

I'm not happy about this....supposed to put her on a Ferry to camp on an island in about 3 weeks......
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Check out this thread, it's not difficult to replace the rivet, then just keep an eye out for any more.
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Cracks in the Wheel Well Cover (Inside)

Here is a picture of what is going on under the floor in the closet:

Could it be that I am usually boondocking so I run with a full tank of fresh water?

This is not good.
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"Lost rivets are one of the first signs of out of balance tires and running gear."
Makes sense..take it for a short ride with someone riding inside..(make sure you have a 2 way radio or intercom..I don't normally advise ppl to do this, as many states have a different outlook issue with passengers in trailers while moving. in this case, it's just to check for vibrations..).
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"Lost rivets are one of the first signs of out of balance tires and running gear."
Makes sense..take it for a short ride with someone riding inside..(make sure you have a 2 way radio or intercom..I don't normally advise ppl to do this, as many states have a different outlook issue with passengers in trailers while moving. in this case, it's just to check for vibrations..).
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Vibrations and to what degree, is a subjective opinion.

Best way to tell, is to see if the running gear is balanced properly. If not, that's a good starting point as well as observing the tire wear pattern.

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Sometimes these trailers have been apart for whatever reason (frozen pipes is one) and they are not always returned to original condition . . . just another possibility. Is there any exterior body damage anywhere? Any signs of wreck or tree damage repair?
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Could it be that I am usually boondocking so I run with a full tank of fresh water?
A full fresh tank won't cause the cracks.

If you are unsure about whether the wheels/tires are balanced, it's worth the peace of mind to have them done. "road force balance" can be done by most good tire centers.

Quite a few here, (me incl) use the Centramatic system to keep the running gear in tune after balancing.
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