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Old 09-16-2005, 09:22 AM   #15
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After seeing the totally blank zombie faces of the idiots plowing down the road with their cellphones glued to their ears...I seriously doubt that even a nuclear flash would catch their attention. We had a truck rear ended the other day...they were in the right lane running at the speed limit, the other car was running at least 20 over and ran into them...the excuse..."they must have pulled out in front of me"...

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Before returning to graduate school, I was a firefighter/EMT. I can not begin to tell you how often people do not even notice an emergency vehicle runing lights and sirens RIGHT BEHIND them. Often, even the air horn, which believe me is impressive, did not over come the radio/cell phone/devil possesion ect preventing them from attending to driving. Its a shame that simple things like lighting changes can not make us safer, the truth is the weak link is the human and lack of appreciation of the danger involved.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:40 AM   #16
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It's funny how things all work out. Congrats on your new coach!
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Old 09-16-2005, 11:14 AM   #17
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Congatulations. It's very nice. I think you should name your old one "Truckstop" (yuk-yuk).
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:25 PM   #18
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Eau de Skunk?

Perhaps if people don't see how dangerous it is to tailgate we could get some kind of aerosol "eau de skunk" or other foul odor that could be actuated by a proximity warning device... I say let's stink em out! Of course a chute that dropped a bowling ball off of the roof of the A/S onto their hood might have promise too....

Or one of my favorite stories from a fellow answering service owner. Seems he'd taken the whole family out - two kids in the front seat with him, mom and infant in back. All of a sudden the child gave off the "loaded diaper" cry and mom matter-of-factly started to change the diaper. As it turned out, the load was positively thermonuclear and started etching the glass on the inside of the car. The two older children started retching and dad wasn't far behind. So dad yelled, "Roll it up and chuck it out the window, do it now!" Mom complied, and the diaper flew back and hit the following POLICE car right on the windshield! The cop immediately turned on his wipers and yellow-green sh** and paper pulp were spread EVERYWHERE.

The cop started to get out and give them a ticket, but was so grossed out by the smell he got back in his car and waved them off!

Now incorporate THAT in an anti-tailgating device!

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Old 09-17-2005, 08:51 AM   #19
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congrats on the new rig!

here is an alterative way of dealing with tailgaters.... this guy has it pretty well figured out.

if a 40mm anti tank gun doesn't work then nothing will!

the pics were taken at the semi annual slimey crud motorcycle ride in october '03.

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Old 09-17-2005, 12:24 PM   #20
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Way to go Joe ... & a warranty to boot!
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:23 PM   #21
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Congratulations!

She's a beautiful Airstream and looks even better with that truck. Mind if I ask what kind of hitch setup you have? It looks like you've got the weight all distributed nicely. Sometimes our Toyota -- same truck as you have -- feels like it's a little low in the rear when we're towing. We've been monkeying with it to try to get things evened out a little but I think there must be a trick to this that we haven't quite worked out yet. Any advice?
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:55 PM   #22
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I've got a Nissan Titan, a full half-ton truck compared to the Tundra (7/8ths X 1/2 ton = ??). Oncoming vehicles think my high beams are on and flash me fairly often -- this is when I'm not towing and I don't have halogens. When I pass a semi on the interstate they frequently burn me with their high beams after I am in front of them. I'm going to check my headlight aim real soon!

Where I'm going is -- When towing at night the number of folks taking exception to my headlights goes up significantly. And I think I'm using good weight distribution, etc. Hmm... If the headlight aim is good I'd guess I'd better head to a CAT scale, check the number of links on the Dual Cam and transfer of weight to the front axle, etc.

Now a Tundra should be reasonably good for an older 23-footer. I really wonder how the tow vehicle's GVWR and GAWR figure into a 25' Classic's tongue weight?
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I've got a Nissan Titan, a full half-ton truck compared to the Tundra (7/8ths X 1/2 ton = ??)..........

Now a Tundra should be reasonably good for an older 23-footer. I really wonder how the tow vehicle's GVWR and GAWR figure into a 25' Classic's tongue weight?
The Tundra Crew Cab does an outstanding job towing the 25' Classic. I realize I'm pretty close to my GCWR but damn it feels good when I'm going down the road. The Crew Cab's extended wheel base (140.5"), along with the 2005 model years increase in torque (313) & horsepower(271), combined with Toyota's 3:92.1 differential really make for a smooth ride.

Now I love a good argument as much as the next guy so here goes......

Although the Tundra's towing capacity is lower than the Titan's I'm not sure why you are calling it less than a half ton truck and stating that the Titan has higher payload capacity by calling it a "full half-ton" and the Tundra a "7/8ths x 1/2 ton =??". The Tundra Crew Cab is larger than the Titan Crew Cab and also has a higher payload capacity. See my listed dimensions below.

The Tundra Crew Cab's payload capacity is 1,800 - 1,835 lbs depending on trim vs. the Titan Crew Cab's payload capacity of 1,325 - 1,529 depending on trim line.

The Tundra Crew Cab's wheel base is 140.5" vs. the Titan Crew Cab's 139.8".

The Tundra Crew Cab's overall length is 230.1" vs. the Titan Crew Cab's 224.2" length.

The Tundra Crew Cabs width is 79.7 vs. the Titan Crew Cabs 78.8" width.

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Old 09-17-2005, 11:06 PM   #24
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She's a beautiful Airstream and looks even better with that truck. Mind if I ask what kind of hitch setup you have? It looks like you've got the weight all distributed nicely. Sometimes our Toyota -- same truck as you have -- feels like it's a little low in the rear when we're towing. We've been monkeying with it to try to get things evened out a little but I think there must be a trick to this that we haven't quite worked out yet. Any advice?
I have a reese dual cam hp set-up. The trick to setting it up was following the directions exactly as they were stated. Reese is very particular about each adjustment on the hitch. This even includes insuring your hitch ball is at the right height and angle. Reese also states that you should take measurements to the top of your front and rear wheel wells before attaching the trailer. Once the trailer is attached and the weight distributing hitch is engaged you need to measure to the top of the front and rear wheel wells again. If trailer has settled evenly then you have hooked everything up properly. If there is more than a 1/2' variance then you need to make some adjustments. I'm listing the URL's to both the weight distributing instructions and the dual cam HP sway control instructions.

http://www.reeseprod.com/support/sup...fs/66006IN.pdf

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Very well founded, Joe! Game, set and match... I'm not about to "Ford vs. Chev" you with Titan arguments. With a few personal items aboard, two people and 100# of dogs, my Safari's tongue weight comes right up to my truck's GVWR. I can't put a topper on without going over -- this isn't the way I want to travel the country! Excess importance is given to GCWR and tow capacity.

Don't know where I got the "7/8ths" biz -- read it somewhere I know. I wonder whether Toyota will change dimensions or capacity when they bring the San Antonio Tundra plant online....

Enjoy the cool (and pristine!) Classic!
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Don't know where I got the "7/8ths" biz -- read it somewhere I know. I wonder whether Toyota will change dimensions or capacity when they bring the San Antonio Tundra plant online....
Bob - I've heard the Tundra's referred to as 7/8ths before also but that comment was applied to the regular cabs and access cabs. When Toyota released the Crew Cab in 2004 it was larger. In the 2005 release they added more power. I actually made a mistake in my torque and horsepower ratings in the earlier post. Torque for the '05 model is actually rated at 325 and horsepower is rated at 282.

With regards to the San Antonio plant they will be bringing a new truck online (3/4 - 1 ton), in addition to the current half ton model, at the end of '06 for the '07 model year. This new truck will be Toyota's start at competing with Ford, Chevy & Dodge in the heavy duty market.

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Old 09-18-2005, 10:25 AM   #27
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Barkingspider -- Thanks for the information on the hitch, and also the nice defense of the Tundra double-cab. We're using a Reese-type hitch, a Draw-tite, that we got with the trailer. We didn't get any instructions with it so that might be why we're having so much trouble with the adjustments. I think the Reese instructions on measuring might help us out here. Your setup just looks sooooo.... great!! When we move up to our next trailer (we're already working on it), maybe we should look for a new Reese hitch to go between the truck and trailer.

Good luck with the new Classic!!
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Old 09-22-2005, 05:21 PM   #28
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Man, here we go again.....

Joe, you've got that new trailer out of the way of the big blow comin', right? I experienced Alicia in Houston back in the early '80's, which was a wimp compared to Rita (potentially, at least). By the time it got up your way (the hill country, Right?) it was pretty tame. Rita may not be like that.

Hope all you good Texas folks are safe. Oh, yea, Gig 'Em, Aggies!

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