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Old 01-02-2013, 06:14 AM   #1
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Will not start

Key will not start Mercedes no power to engine. Batteries charged. either a ignition failure or fuse? How do I check? Was -10 now in heated garage.
Key light dash etc. but not turn starter. You can jump starter but will not fire engine?
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:33 AM   #2
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One of those did exactly the same thing at the shop. It turned out the starter had to be replaced.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:53 AM   #3
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At minus ten the diesel fuel may have jelled, then will not start. Try again when the temp warms up. Do you have winter grade fuel in the tank? Jim
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Turn key to on position. All dash lights come on strong??

Turn key to start. No crank, all dash lights go out??

Stupid ?? maybe....key on when starter jumped??, strong crank??

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Bad connection at the battery; bad battery. Bad connection at the starter. I would bet it is one of the first two. Clean the battery terminals and cable connections. Make sure they are tight once cleaned.
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Two problems happening here, both related to the cold. #2 Diesel contains parafin, and will gel at low temperatures (below +17F). Winterized diesel is a blend of #2 and #1 diesel, and contains less parafin. Pure #1 diesel won't gel until about -35F.

So, if your temps got down to -10F, good chance that the diesel gelled. Problem is, when the diesel warms back up, the parafin doesn't necessarily dissolve again and blend back into the fuel. It's a relatively complicated process to un-gel your diesel. Check this forum to see what some diesel owners recommend:
Gelled Fuel? What to do? - Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums

One addition to what Robert Corss wrote: When you turn the key, does the glow plug indicator lamp come on? Does it go off again after a few seconds to a minute or so? Don't try to start the engine until the glow plug light has gone back off, indicating that the cylinder temperature is high enough to support diesel combustion.

Second problem, cold temperatures affect the cold cranking amps of your battery. Cold cranking amps measure the amperage available from the battery at 0F in 30 seconds, from full charge to 50% charge (or 10.5 volts). At -10F, your battery capacity is reduced by about 14%. The upside, the battery should recover as it warms up, as long as you haven't depleted it in the meantime.
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Stand outside of vehicle press door lock on remote wait 30 sec push unlock.Put key in ignition and turn to unlock column shifter pull down to drive then put back into park.Now try to start with foot firmly on brake.
It may have gone into theft mode.Disabling starter and ignition.

If this does not work call M.B roadside assist.They will come to you for free.
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Turn key to on position. All dash lights come on strong?? YES

Turn key to start. No crank, all dash lights go out?? YES

Stupid ?? maybe....key on when starter jumped??, YES strong crank?? YES

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I tried all these the last message by Moflash is interesting. RV at dealers will be worked on today.

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I tried all these the last message by Moflash is interesting. RV at dealers will be worked on today.

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No Fix yet

The Sprinter is at dealer in shop...NO fix in sight. Shop is very busy and had little time today so we are on hold.

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The Sprinter is at dealer in shop...NO fix in sight. Shop is very busy and had little time today so we are on hold.

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I hope that it is at a Mercedes Benz dealer as it may be to much for a RV dealer and will require special diagnostic equipment
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Not a lot of things that haven't been covered so far, that match your symptoms. I'm still mostly convinced it has to do with the fuel system, more so than the electrical system.

Gelled fuel, clogged fuel filter, did we mention the fuel pump? Since yours is a 2009, it's probably not a common-rail fuel injection, and so only has a low-pressure fuel pump, not both low-pressure primary and high-pressure secondary pumps.

It's possible that the electric fuel pump has a blown fuse. Also possible that the fuel pump got clogged or damaged, but the fuse is easier to check, so start with that.

Not likely to be clogged injectors. I very much doubt that enough injectors could all get clogged at once to keep it from starting at all, and unless the fuel filter is damaged, there shouldn't be anything in the fuel line that could clog the injectors.
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ok , found bad fuse. replaced fuel filter, two bad glow plugs. Will be on the road at noon today. Life is good, thanks and see you all out there on the road. Thanks for all the support. Denny
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ok , found bad fuse. replaced fuel filter, two bad glow plugs. Will be on the road at noon today. Life is good, thanks and see you all out there on the road. Thanks for all the support. Denny
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