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Old 10-15-2015, 03:06 PM   #29
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In all fairness, I must say, that it's not just Mercedes that are having this problem. This is NOT about our vehicles. It's about the absurd testing mechanism that California is using. It's causing the same problem in all kinds of vehicles.
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While researching on line, I found this blog where this guy explains his smog nightmare (same nightmare as I'm in). Interesting to read his post and to read many of the comments below the blog entry.

Stuck In California’s Smog Check Hell | WorkingReporter – Ron Olsen on the web

Also, I googled "Mercedes drive cycle" and this is what is required in order to get your monitors ready (see attachment). Not sure if this pertains to our exact model, but, it'll give you an idea of the absurdity. (note #17...."Repeat the cycle")

I also just called the office of our state Senator, Marty Block, to complain. First time I've ever called the government for anything.
re: "Mercedes drive cycle" Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!!! Seriously, Why? All I have ever done is drive my car in and had it tested and it passed and I got the certificate and drove away. What is wrong with this car?
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I have been driving in CA since 2000 and I have never heard of a Smog Referee. But then I have never had a vehicle not pass either. My first car was a 1991 Acura Legend and now I drive a 2003 F150.
I've never heard of it either. Not sure if it's a new thing they've created due to all the new problems or what.

I've never had a car not pass either. But remember, this isn't a problem with the vehicles...it's a computer issue. I'm reading on line, people with all different cars, new and old, that are having the same problem.
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I've never heard of it either. Not sure if it's a new thing they've created due to all the new problems or what.

I've never had a car not pass either. But remember, this isn't a problem with the vehicles...it's a computer issue. I'm reading on line, people with all different cars, new and old, that are having the same problem.
This is news to me, first I have ever heard of it. It hasn't happened to any of my friends. Is this only in CA?
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re: "Mercedes drive cycle" Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!!! Seriously, Why? All I have ever done is drive my car in and had it tested and it passed and I got the certificate and drove away. What is wrong with this car?
I know!!!

Computer issue. Not a car issue. Not a pollution issue. Nothing needs to be fixed on the vehicle. This is NOT about our AI's. Nothing wrong with our vehicles.

Mercedes Sprinter service, AND the smog check guy keep telling me, "you have to take it through it's drive cycle/drive 200 miles/ etc., to get the monitors ready."
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This is news to me, first I have ever heard of it. It hasn't happened to any of my friends. Is this only in CA?
My understanding is that it's a California thing...because of our smog control rules, I guess. And that they don't test the vehicles like they used to...now it's all done with visual inspection and this dreaded computer program.
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Glad I left California 30 years ago.

So what happens if you can never pass the smog test. It doesn't sound like anything can be repaired.

Guess all the smog stations will have to spend thousand of dollars to get dynamometer equipment installed to run these drive cycles.

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Glad I left California 30 years ago.

So what happens if you can never pass the smog test. It doesn't sound like anything can be repaired.

Guess all the smog stations will have to spend thousand of dollars to get dynamometer equipment installed to run these drive cycles.

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I'm wondering the same thing...what if we can't get it passed? There is nothing that needs repairing. Will we have to move out of CA?

We're gonna dedicate a day next week to take the thing out, drive it a bunch of miles, and try again. After that, I'm not sure.

That blog link I posted, in the comments section, there are several people who wrote to say that they're driving around without registration stickers because they can't pass smog test for the same reason.
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In the 1960's right after CARB was created, Hot Rod, Car Craft and Pop Hot Rod built small block Chevies with speed equipment that aced the smog check tests. CARB then changed the rules with visual checks. I ended up selling 2 cars in Tiajuana as I couldn't pass the visual test even though I passed the tail pipe test. Saw a blog recently claiming that cost of current emissions equipment has reached the point of diminishing returns. FYI, the CHP cars that lead Moonbeam's entourage are exempt from smog checks!
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more research...if you have had your battery replaced, or have at some point disconnected your battery, then all of these monitors have to run through some cycle to be complete.

we had our battery replaced, and since then, we've driven 1,000 miles. well, you'd think that'd be enough??!!
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Dedicating outings to pass smog test

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...what if we can't get it passed? There is nothing that needs repairing. Will we have to move out of CA?

We're gonna dedicate a day next week to take the thing out, drive it a bunch of miles, and try again. After that, I'm not sure...
And remember what you read, it's not just how many miles you drive, but the varying conditions (AC/defroster on & then off) and speed (everything from freeway to local streets to bumper to bumper traffic, full stops, etc.)

So on our dedicated "take the car for a drive day," we took soda and a cooler, and drove south on freeways I-15 and I-805 to just before the border and then local streets (Palm Ave.)with traffic lights to State Route 75 and then a pleasant drive north, up the Silver Strand into Coronado and across the Coronado Bridge, then back onto the freeways for points to the north until we accumulated 330 miles.

To increase the odds for a successful completion of the smog test, I would do this trip early enough in the day to be able to bring the vehicle right in to the smog testing center upon finishing your drive, rather than bringing it back the next morning from a cold start!

Good luck and please keep us posted!
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SilverGate....yes, we'll be sure to do all of that crazy stuff while we drive.

By the way, on your 330 mile journey, did you drive continuously, or did you ever actually stop and turn the car off?

Mercedes told me to stop a few times and turn car off. But others say NO, do NOT turn vehicle off.

I've dubbed this situation "Pollute-Gate."
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Pollute-Gate support report

We actually spent one day doing the "Pollute-Gate" cruise and turned the car off when we got home. The next day, I took the car to the Toyota dealer and the monitors still failed to be read by the computer, and that's when I insisted they do the "Drive Cycle Procedure". In the process of them attempting to do this or whatever troubleshooting they did, the monitors were able to be finally read!

Toyota then gave me a print out of the "Readiness Indicators" on their OBDII Manual Mode Screen, and a print out copy of the "Smog Check Vehicle Inspection Report - Pretest Inspection (Not an Official Inspection)", showing that the vehicle PASSED: the Emission Control Systems Visual Inspection/Functional Check and the ASM Emission Test!

So I paid them $345 and drove immediately to the College Smog Check station for my free re-test (Toyota would have charged me another $80 for an official smog test inspection)! There was only one car in front of me, so I kept the car running (to keep it and the catalytic converter hot for about another 15 minutes) until it was tested... and PASSED... and I got my DMV Registration renewed! (So I learned some things from this, that I already mentioned in previous posts.)

Hope this support report has been helpful! Looking forward to the rest of your story!

(PS: No charge for this report, but kindly visit my new thread here, "Wash, wax and treat II")
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SilverGate... on your 330 mile journey, did you drive continuously, or did you ever actually stop and turn the car off?

Mercedes told me to stop a few times and turn car off. But others say NO, do NOT turn vehicle off.

I've dubbed this situation "Pollute-Gate."
During our journey, we drove continuously, except for stopping at traffic lights, stop signs, and bumper-bumper traffic... we did not turn off the engine until we got home.
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