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Old 05-19-2015, 12:03 PM   #15
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But.....Whatever happened to the good ole fashioned watch dog??.....with a baritone bark?? Don't we have those anymore??
No. A dog inside an Interstate van would actually CAUSE break-ins… by animal rights activists who want to "rescue" the animal that is obviously being mistreated by being left alone in a hot van— unless you also left the generator and air conditioner running and said activists were smart enough to understand that the air conditioner is running…
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:22 PM   #16
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Take into consideration where you are parking. If you are traveling in Mexico you can expect to have the screw-on TPMS valve stem caps taken or have your entire rig hijacked. Same thing in some areas of US cities. Since we are full timing and stay in remote areas we are vulnerable as well. Fortunately we have never had a problem with either our AS or van (the van looks a bit intimidating so may provide a deterrence).

Anticipating that someone might think about a break-in (the door handle/lock assembly cost $600 to replace) I installed ring/gate hasps on the front door and jam and hang a round padlock from them. Eight years on the road and no signs of break ins. If you do instal the ring/gate hasps be careful not to drill into the wires that run inside of the door jam. Use a short drill. Glue a small piece of plastic on the door to keep the lock from rubbing the finish.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:42 PM   #17
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Locks take less than minute to pick. Lock pick sets readily availble on line along with instructions how to pick locks and it's easy to learn how. If crook wants it he will get it no matter what device you use. Good example, movie gone in 60 seconds. Google how to pick locks there are several sites that have u tube showing how to pick w/hair pin or paper clip. I don't advocate you doing this but you can see how easy it is for crooks to get any thing. There are several ways to open car doors easily, even if have cover over lock mech. inside door that slim jim won't work, coat hanger or stiff wire and screw driver, you can get into any vehicle. I have done this many times for people that locked themselves out. I will only do this if they have proper ID and proof of vehicle. If rental I will not unlock. Don't pm me how to do it, I won't tell you how unless I personally know you.....
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:49 PM   #18
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Have your dealer turn down the sensitivity. There is a small round knob on the sensor if you know where they stuck it. Takes about five seconds.

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I got a DroneMobil too works well just need to keep up with the false alarms. Truck passing by. Train or motorcycle will trigger but also when somebody bumps it.
The alarm sticker alone is a deterrent I got it on both sides visible by approach as well a blue indicator light that it is on.
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Old 05-20-2015, 02:24 AM   #19
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On the tangental subject of personal security... why would anyone have issues with the topic of people defending themselves, with firearms or any other weapon? That makes no sense, whatsoever.

There are evil scumbags out there who place no value whatsoever on your well-being or your life and would snuff it out in an instant, under any circumstances playing out against their getting away with an evil intent.

Those, especially road travelers and those who camp in remote or secluded places, who don't recognize this and pay heed to it simply have their heads buried in the sand.

Who would recommend not being prepared to defend their life or the lives of their loved ones?

Weapons, especially firearms, help level a very unlevel playing field when law abiding citizens are confronted by law breaking evil doers who have no respect for you or your life.

I'll bet it would be a very rare gun control freak who wouldn't absolutely pray to have a firearm in his/her possession when unexpectedly finding themselves faced with evil-doers who would slit their throats in an instant, just to avoid being caught doing some evil deed against them.

When mere seconds make the difference between survival or death in a self-defense situation, the police are only about, oh, 20 minutes+ away? That is, if one even had the opportunity or time to call 911, once the threat was recognized.

People who can't/won't look after their own self-defense get what they get, when calling 911 just doesn't quite cut it in time to save their lives or the lives of their loved ones.
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On the tangental subject of personal security... why would anyone have issues with the topic of people defending themselves, with firearms or any other weapon? That makes no sense, whatsoever.
I don't have an issue with the topic— if that's what this thread was about. There are plenty of firearm-related threads scattered throughout the AirForums, and the subject has been done to death… so to speak.

My objection relates to the far-from-rare instances when a thread that wasn't originally about firearms for personal defense BECOMES one after the subject is broached, and the original topic— in this case security for unattended vehicles— is forgotten.
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Thanks all for the varied comments. It's interesting to see what kind of measures different folks take with their vehicle security. Protagonist is correct this was more of a topic of unattended vehicle security than personal security although at some point in some situations they are combined.

I asked my wife of her opinion and she felt that an alarm would not do much as in almost every case bystanders just ignore it. A motivated thief will find a way.

It seems the best defense is a combination of electronics, visual deterrents , concealment and more importantly operational and situational awareness.
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No. A dog inside an Interstate van would actually CAUSE break-ins… by animal rights activists who want to "rescue" the animal that is obviously being mistreated by being left alone in a hot van— unless you also left the generator and air conditioner running and said activists were smart enough to understand that the air conditioner is running…
I worried about this exact thing with the B190 and my cat - that is, even though I had the generator and A/C running, that someone would need to SAVE THE CAT!!!!! and break in. Fortunately, it never happened. I tried to limit my time away from the vehicle as much as possible - for example, if I stopped at a fast food joint, I'd get my food and bring it back to the camper.

I also agree with you on the gun thread issue. I was reading with interest because someone had broken into my B190 before I owned it, and I saw people giving it the hairy eyeball a couple times (and not in the good "Hey, it's an Airstream!" way), though no one ever broke in while I owned it.
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On the tangental subject of personal security... why would anyone have issues with the topic of people defending themselves, with firearms or any other weapon? That makes no sense, whatsoever.

There are evil scumbags out there who place no value whatsoever on your well-being or your life and would snuff it out in an instant, under any circumstances playing out against their getting away with an evil intent.

Those, especially road travelers and those who camp in remote or secluded places, who don't recognize this and pay heed to it simply have their heads buried in the sand.

Who would recommend not being prepared to defend their life or the lives of their loved ones?

Weapons, especially firearms, help level a very unlevel playing field when law abiding citizens are confronted by law breaking evil doers who have no respect for you or your life.

I'll bet it would be a very rare gun control freak who wouldn't absolutely pray to have a firearm in his/her possession when unexpectedly finding themselves faced with evil-doers who would slit their throats in an instant, just to avoid being caught doing some evil deed against them.

When mere seconds make the difference between survival or death in a self-defense situation, the police are only about, oh, 20 minutes+ away? That is, if one even had the opportunity or time to call 911, once the threat was recognized.

People who can't/won't look after their own self-defense get what they get, when calling 911 just doesn't quite cut it in time to save their lives or the lives of their loved ones.

Because firearms discussion is not relevant to this thread as the issue is not about self defense. The Community Rules address the topic of weapons discussion.

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Old 05-20-2015, 07:17 AM   #25
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Vehicle Security - What have you done?

I may be wrong but see this as two issues:

First, when one is in the trailer or motorhome - best is can of bear spray or wasp spray. Blinds actor does no permanent harm.

Second, when one is absent from trailer of motorhome - I've been advised by multiple LEO friends several stickers in the windows indicating security and possibly a sign placed outside when camping. In most cases actor will move on to a target that has no stickers or signs or obvious protection.
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Speaking of stickers and signs...... maybe some of this across the door or around the trailer....

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Bear spray in an enclosed area isn't a good idea......nor is spraying in an upwind situation.
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Vehicle Security - What have you done?

There's an update on Mike Wendland's Facebook page: to add to his pain it seems his insurance is balking on payout on the basis the thieves probably used an electronic device to open the doors. Their warped reasoning? No break-in suggests the Wendland's may have forgotten to lock up.


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