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Old 07-30-2015, 11:20 PM   #15
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Twin versus Lounge...Pros and Cons

I bought at Lazy Days in Touson, Az.

I waited til the end of 2014 and at that time, got exactly what I wanted.
Now I may customize the rear section to twins that still turn into a queen but with different upholstery for a unique look and feel.
That way I still have the storage above the existing lounge couch.
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Old 07-31-2015, 12:08 AM   #16
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That way I still have the storage above the existing lounge couch.

From what I see in the recent videos, the latest twin bed models do use the large overhead rear locker.


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Old 08-04-2015, 09:11 AM   #17
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So with the twin, can you seat people back there while in motion?

Or is the reas seating in the lounge such a rough ride that nobody wants to sit back there anyway?
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:05 AM   #18
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So with the twin, can you seat people back there while in motion? No, no seat belts.

Or is the reason seating in the lounge such a rough ride that nobody wants to sit back there anyway? Probably

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Old 08-04-2015, 11:15 AM   #19
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So with the twin, can you seat people back there while in motion?
Depends on where you're driving. 22 states have seat belt laws for RVs that require every passenger be belted in. The other 28 states only require front-seat passengers be belted in.

However, of those 28 states, 26 require minors be belted in anywhere in the vehicle. So adults could ride on the twin beds in 28 states, but kids could only ride on the twin beds in Alabama and Arkansas.

See: Things You Need To Know About RV Seat Belt Laws

Caveat: I don't know when was the last time the linked website was last updated, so the information may be out-of-date.
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Old 08-04-2015, 01:03 PM   #20
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So with the twin, can you seat people back there while in motion?



Or is the reas seating in the lounge such a rough ride that nobody wants to sit back there anyway?

As others pointed out there are no seat belts for the twin beds. That's why I converted my lounge bed to a U-shaped twin arrangement. I just finished a 6 week road trip with this arrangement and it worked great. I only gave up the one side facing rear seat on the drivers side to make the conversion. I still have belted seats for six people. It's the best of both layouts for my use.


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Can you post a picture or diagram of your U-shaped arrangement?
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:57 PM   #22
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Can you post a picture or diagram of your U-shaped arrangement?

I've posted these before, but here they are again. Click image for larger version

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With mattress toppers rolled out.



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Old 08-04-2015, 06:07 PM   #23
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Hit send too fast. Here are some photos of how I modified the side seats by removing the heavy jackknife frame and seat backs. Click image for larger version

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Left side seat base lifted to show the hinges I added. It's now a lot easier to access the under seat storage bins.
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Right side seat base lifted also shows the wood spacer blocks I added to keep seat base level. I've managed to get good at matching to Onyx interior cabinet colors.
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Looks good and you only had to sacrifice one seating position.
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Boxster...I love what you've done. Husband and I talked about doing the exact same thing. Just never got around to it. But if we ever do, I'm gonna pull up these images of yours, 'cause it's perfect for us!
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As others pointed out there are no seat belts for the twin beds.
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It depends on the year. The older T1N Interstates do have lap belts with the "twin-like" beds (which actually converge to a queen bed in the rear version but remain twin-like in the mid-version, as I understand it). In the attached bed up / bed down photo, you cannot see them because they are tucked into the crease of each jack-knife couch. But there are four of them - two on each side.

In fact, that was one of the main reasons why we chose this model - because it has a total of six seat belts while not wasting precious space up front for two extra captain's chairs that we don't need. Best of both worlds, we thought.

Now, whether or not a person could legally retrofit a newer Interstate and install only lap belts on lateral twin beds - that I do not know. I have been assuming that, because Airstream installed those lap belts in the 2007 AIs, they at least met legal requirements for belting 8 years ago when the thing was built. I don't know if the standards have changed since then. Maybe now it would be required to have shoulder straps back there too.
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It depends on the year.
After reading FMVSS 208, which is the Federal requirement for type and placement of seat belts, it appears that side-facing seats in a motorhome with a GVWR under 10,000 pounds— which would include T1N Interstates— are required to have lap belts (i.e. Type 1 restraints), but not shoulder harnesses (i.e Type 2 restraints).

But I may be misreading something— all FMVSS are written in Governmentese and do not include subtitles for the non-lawmaker— so if you intend to modify your rear seats/beds you may want to look up FMVSS 208 for yourself to find out the requirements, and then install belts that meet the technical (strength) requirements of FMVSS 209 and the anchorage requirements of FMVSS 210.
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:24 AM   #28
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Lots of great input. Thanks!

Anyone want to weigh in on whether it's comfortable to ride back in the lounge while underway in the lounge setup? I guess it can't be too bad given that's the intent ...

Wish there was a design with bath at back and lounge more midship bt the axles for smoother ride ...
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