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Old 11-06-2015, 02:34 PM   #15
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Can you mount a ladder on the rear doors like you could with the older interstates? I did and I could put a ladder or chairs mounted to it.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:52 PM   #16
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I don't think under the coach is going to be a viable option.. I attached it to the back of the store all box and I think that I can fabricate a sleeve, box or mounting points.. As it is now I can still open the box and swing it out, the ladder does not get in the way.. Will most likely have to put a bike lock on it so it won't get stolen.. Now I think that I can fabricate some small storage boxes to put in the space that I was going to put the ladder.. Click image for larger version

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Old 11-06-2015, 04:56 PM   #17
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Many towns have small custom gear/outdoor clothing/bag sewing operations. I always check them first!
You are absolutely correct. For this project, sewing an appropriate device would be 1 to 2 hours labor - a pittance. If not located through standard yellow pages, such services are readily identifiable on social media. Moms clubs often have stay-at-homes who jump at the chance to do projects for a small fee.
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Old 11-06-2015, 04:59 PM   #18
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Can you mount a ladder on the rear doors like you could with the older interstates? I did and I could put a ladder or chairs mounted to it.
This, to me, is potentially more desirable than under-mount. Not to affix in such a way as to put the weight of a human on the ladder, but just as a holding mechanism. But depending on what your plans are, you have to start thinking in terms of theft potential, which I will comment on below.
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I had a less expensive ladder than I have now that locked up from "grime" I think keeping the ladder clean is a very high priority. It has some pretty tight clearances as it expands and contracts. Also, digging under the van for a heavy canvas bag that is covered with "grime" will probably get old in a hurry. The suggestion for a hinged compartment is an excellent idea.


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If you implement the tray idea, the tray itself should help to keep the majority of road grime off the ladder, and strategically placed drain holes will ensure the tray doesn't retain water.

A bit of road grime is unlikely to do much damage to the ladder anyway, unless you're driving on icy streets treated with salt. Just whenever you go to the truck wash, pull the ladder out and spray-clean the ladder as well.
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:23 PM   #20
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... I attached it to the back of the store all box and I think that I can fabricate a sleeve, box or mounting points.....Will most likely have to put a bike lock on it so it won't get stolen.. ....
I have researched this type of external security issue at length, because my husband and I intend to develop a custom hitch mounting system for our Yeti cooler (my husband is unhappy with the quality of the existing hitch products on the market - see this thread about hauling frozen food on long trips to remote areas).

A Yeti is a $400+ asset and it is absolutely astonishing the lengths to which people will go to steal them. If you read the boards, you'll discover all kinds of security-thwarting examples, to the point where many users echo the sentiment, "The only way to keep a Yeti from being stolen is to buy a Coleman".

I reckon the same is going to be generally true for a Telesteps. While not as recognizable as a Yeti, it is clearly an expensive item, and I bet that it's going to take much more than a bike lock if you wish to leave your vehicle for longer than the two minutes that it takes to execute a C-store mad dash.

Eventually my husband and I will construct a hitch device suited to the "we are disappearing on foot into the backcountry and leaving the Interstate unattended for the next 24 hours" scenario. Ach, so many projects, so little time.
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Old 11-07-2015, 10:20 AM   #21
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This thread has prompted me to re-evaluate the possibility of using a Stowaway Max.

For those of you who have them, where did you get them?

I'd like to find a brick-and-mortar so that I could try before I buy (or at least look).

I'm coming up empty on that search (Holiday World - no, PPL - no, mainstream big boxes such as Academy and Bass Pro - no, sales reps at those companies cannot suggest a source, internet is also of no local help).

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You could try asking a question on the Stowaway web site about who might carry them in your area.
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Old 11-07-2015, 01:52 PM   #23
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I did, but it's the weekend. And I also emailed them this question below, which reflects the reason why we hadn't gone this route to start with. If someone could sell me a secure hitch container for $900, I would buy it in a heartbeat. This product does not cut the mustard in its present form, but if I saw one of them in the flesh, I would be able to assess whether it has adaptation potential.

Email: "Do you offer, or do you plan to offer, any extra security features for this product? Here is the review comment on Amazon that concerns me and makes me hesitate before buying: "However, a determined thief with a crowbar will have the lid open in 15 seconds flat. The lock is more for preventing the lid from flying open and for keeping curious cats from getting in the box." "
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I don't store anything too valuable in the box, it wouldn't take a thief that long to get into it.. It is very useful for putting things that I don't want to have to put in the coach.. Beach chairs, small BBQ things of that nature.. Its easy to wash out if you get sand or dirt in it.. Much easier than cleaning the rear storage of the coach out..
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I don't store anything too valuable in the box, it wouldn't take a thief that long to get into it.. It is very useful for putting things that I don't want to have to put in the coach.. Beach chairs, small BBQ things of that nature.. Its easy to wash out if you get sand or dirt in it.. Much easier than cleaning the rear storage of the coach out..
^^This is sound thinking -- and it also represents the point at which my husband and I diverge from many RV owners. At the point where we exit the sliding door, there will be times when we act far more like hunters than RVers. What do hunters do? They disappear into the bush for long periods of time. And at that point, it will matter how good our hitch box is. And fifteen second isn't going to cut it (that's a generous estimate - I could get into a Stowaway in five). At that point, I have to start reading the hunting forums and figure out what works and doesn't work for those guys.

My view on these things is shaped by an extensive theft history. 1987 - theft of my high-quality bicycle, my only means of transportation at the time. 1990 - my car broken into. 1998 - my house burglarized and EVERY single last thing of value stolen - right down to the spare change jar that held maybe ten bucks in coinage. Everything gone. No thefts since 1998 (knock wood), not because I got lucky but because I started thinking differently and living differently. Every item described above that was stolen was locked up, so to speak. But not in a very smart way, as it turns out.
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You could use this and weld a contractors tools box to it..

https://aosom.com/us/homcom-48-hitch...FU8YHwodHEUJug
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I did an inventory under the chassis this past Sunday and, at least with our mid-bath T1N Interstate, I didn't see good potential for deploying any of the ideas floated in this thread - not for the Telesteps at least, due to its size. The problem is that there are just too many space interruptions to make it worth the effort. Too many appurtenances running in too many directions.

Now, if someone desired instead to store rods and tackle under there, my response would be "piece of cake". There are good smaller cavities in the chassis and good linear spaces also. Furthermore, they come with pre-installed chassis penetrations and even some unused mounting brackets, so no disruption of the chassis would be required (it's coated with a heavy protective substance that has the appearance of an elastomeric, and I would want to leave it intact).

First rule of theft prevention: Do not allow your item to be seen. One could install a strong box under there and I doubt that anyone besides Homeland Security would ever be able to find it.

As for our Telesteps, we decided on assigned storage behind the passenger seat, held in place with a rubber bungee, the kind that allows different placement of the hook ends (same one I use to lash the top of the ladder to our roof rack). We have a Duluth junk bag ("seat organizer") that hangs behind that seat and obscures most of the ladder. Given that we chose the ten-foot model, there are no perpendicular extensions and the ladder is only 3 inches wide. It almost looks like it is part of the seat.
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Additional reason why carrying a Telesteps is worth it:

I can whip that thing out and slap it against any sturdy vertical surface and get ALL KINDS of views and photos that otherwise would be out of the question. It's the next best thing to a drone but without the expense and small-space storage hassle.

This is Galveston Island State Park. From ground level, one cannot see the surf over the vegetated sand dunes. It's a much more enchanting experience from the roof of the picnic table enclosures.
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