Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-11-2018, 02:01 AM   #1499
Rivet Master
 
bolerama's Avatar
 
2017 30' Flying Cloud
2008 23' International
Saskatoon , Saskatchewan
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 789
Images: 30
Blog Entries: 6
The FLOR tiles look fantastic. I was drawn to that pattern too . . . Very Ray Eames-ishLisa
__________________

__________________
Lisa and Paul

2008 23' Int. CCD "The Atomic Pod" https://atomicpod.wordpress.com
2002 Chinook Destiny | 1973 13' Boler (fiberglass egg) "The Boiler"
WBCCI #23223 (=23 CCD)
bolerama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 06:54 AM   #1500
Rivet Master
 
InterBlog's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
League City , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,358
LB_3 gets credit for the pattern selection. I initially liked some of the more far-out patterns, but had to concede that they wouldn't fit the rig as nicely.

I'm noodling on how to attach the groups to each other. This paradigm does not exist in the commercial world. Carpet tiles are either adhered to the floor (which I don't want to do), OR they are dovetailed and floating free. Best example of the latter is trade show flooring where it has to group together but cannot be stuck to the floor because the trade show travels from venue to venue. But trade show flooring can't be sprayed off with a garden hose, and probably wouldn't stand up well to sawdust and fresh tree sap. It's strictly an indoor product.

Once again, van living calls for something that doesn't exist in our consumer nature. Given the stiff, dense nature of the backing, I'm wondering if I can drill a series of tiny holes along the meet-up edges and lash them one by one using outdoor thread. If I just use carpet tape on the back, it will rip off during the first beating.

Trade show carpet:

__________________

InterBlog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 07:36 AM   #1501
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 15,103
I think holes and lashing them together may be your best bet, and might do that with a twine or cord of some sort, like something perhaps used for sails?

Rather than standing on your head, trying to figure out how to hold the pieces together so as to withstand daily “thrashings” and “beatings”, IB, you could consider alternative methods of preventing or removing debris continuously tracked inside and onto these by your own feet.

This is not a “van living” problem, sweetie, but one you seem determined to create.

Seriously, these are not inexpensive, and certainly not made to withstand aggressive daily beatings by their human owner.

Perhaps lash together tightly, back off some on how to keep them clean.

Maggie
__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 08:11 AM   #1502
Rivet Master
 
InterBlog's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
League City , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,358
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily&Me View Post
....

This is not a ďvan livingĒ problem, sweetie, but one you seem determined to create.

...
There's a very easy and efficient way to resolve this disagreement:

You gather up another able-bodied adult and spend two weeks off-grid cutting massive amounts of spruce forest while living and working out of your Interstate, in all weather conditions, with an active dog to boot.

Until you yourself have LIVED that scenario, then I don't see how you are able to comment productively on the NEEDS of that scenario.

In other words, how do you know what specific cleanliness challenges are associated with that situation, if you have never tackled that situation? I'm very curious about the source of your knowledge on this one, sweetie.
InterBlog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 08:46 AM   #1503
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 15,103
It’s a situation specific problem, IB, and that’s all.

I haven’t spent two weeks at your site, doing what you do, but have spent that amount of time at beaches and other equally dirt and debris generating places, with a dog and a husband.

The beautiful, individual carpet tiles you have purchased are not made to withstand what you say you will put them through, is what I’m pointing out.

If you find an effective way to lash them together, will that lashing and what these are made of hold up to what they will endure every day?

Do you have a heavy duty mat to scrape your work shoes on before coming inside?

That is something meant to withstand heavy handling and shaking, hosing down, etc., and have you considered removing footwear before coming inside?

Just think about it, and perhaps rethink a bit, is all I’m sayin’.

You’re a STEM person, and complicated solutions are your thing...but not the only thing.

Maggie
__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 08:50 AM   #1504
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 15,103
Thinking more about how to hold these together, to sort of make area rugs, a durable fabric-type material sewn or otherwise adhered to the backs might be better than a thread or twine type.

Maggie
__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 09:16 AM   #1505
Rivet Master
 
InterBlog's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
League City , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,358
The FLOR product appears to be commercial grade (loosely defined).

It's construction is at least as robust as the other commercial products I've used in the van, including my existing commercial restaurant mat. This I can see by basic observation.

I have beat the crap (crap = sawdust, tree sap, caked muck, swamp slime, etc.) out of my restaurant matting. I've hosed it off. I've scrubbed it outdoors with Dawn dish soap as well as solvent-heavy products, and totally submerged it in buckets of water. Heck, I've even thrown the stupid thing into the lake itself. Not only did it survive all of that abuse, it actually still looks brand new. That's what a commercial product is built to do - take that kind of abuse and clean up well.

But IIRC, you were the one who noted that the thing is ugly. Totally agreed. It's just a butt-ugly restaurant mat.

Administrative controls haven't worked well on keeping the filth out of our van. Typically by the time we are done working for the day, we are so incredibly exhausted that we just pile into the van and collapse on the couch, filth and all. Which doesn't really add that much incremental filth, given what the dog has already dragged in from a day of digging in the muddy forest floor for rodents. When the dog first learned that she was "allowed" to dig in the forest (not in our suburban back yard), she became so overjoyed and dragged in so much mud that I ceased being able to see the true color of our previous runner mat, the one that I had used before the restaurant mat, and that promptly fell apart.

Time will reveal how the Flor will stand up to that same abuse. I predict based on its tangible quality that it will stand up well. But we'll see.
InterBlog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 09:26 AM   #1506
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 15,103
I believe I said your floor tiles are gorgeous, IB, and they are.

They are also in squares that you want to bind together, unlike a continuous piece of a restaurant mat, which is going to make a difference as to how that binding and what it’s attached to...the squares...holds up.

It is impossible to keep outside dirt, debris, sand, etc., entirely outside, that has also been my experience.

I try to control how much gets inside, tho it’s still an impressive amount.

At any rate, I’m just trying to help you problem-solve.

It’s what I do, too, we just do it differently,

Maggie
__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2018, 09:33 AM   #1507
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 15,103
You might think about taking your Flor tiles up when you go to work on your property, reverting to the ugly mat which may better withstand all it must be subjected to.

Maggie
__________________
🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2018, 04:57 PM   #1508
Rivet Master
 
InterBlog's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
League City , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,358
I'm trying 2 mm zip ties as a tough means of attaching these Flor tiles to one another without attaching them to the floor, or getting mixed up with adhesives or tapes that might cause problems when I later take the tiles out to hose them off (or dunk them in the lake). Blog post with instructions here.

The 19.7" width of the tile is virtually identical to the width of the wet bath door, so it makes for a nice fit... but what on earth prompted the manufacturer to choose 19.7", I wonder? Not 19.6" or 19.8"? There was probably a rationale in there somewhere.

Here's a wide-angle GoPro shot from above of the pair in front of the slider, which I had to trim to fit as well as lash together.

InterBlog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2018, 09:37 PM   #1509
4 Rivet Member
 
nryn's Avatar

 
2019 27' Globetrotter
Chicago area , Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 324
Iím guessing they are 50cm. We in the US are in the minority when it comes to units of measurement.
nryn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2018, 04:52 AM   #1510
Rivet Master
 
InterBlog's Avatar

 
2006 22' Interstate
League City , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 4,358
Quote:
Originally Posted by nryn View Post
Iím guessing they are 50cm. We in the US are in the minority when it comes to units of measurement.
You are probably correct. It seems to be a Georgia company (America's Georgia), but perhaps they also sell abroad.

They are targeting a rarefied market segment. I was in the BORG yesterday (Big Orange Retail Giant) and as I was getting 2 mm zip ties, I cruised a few additional aisles. It's astonishing what is being offered now in terms of flooring, and at what price. Thick composite wood-look vinyl which is attractive and basically indestructible (lifetime warranty which in Houston basically means it can survive being submerged under three feet of flood water for six days) in the price range of $2 - $3 per square foot. Compare that to this carpet which is $6.75 to $8.60 per square foot. Flor is only going to have so many takers at that price.
InterBlog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2018, 06:33 AM   #1511
4 Rivet Member
 
nryn's Avatar

 
2019 27' Globetrotter
Chicago area , Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 324
Flor is considered a luxury product. They have showrooms with design services and offer exclusive patterns and colors that appeal to a lot of folks both residential and commercial. They arenít chasing the Home Depot crowd.

We looked into it when we remodeled our basement. I do think it is a good product but I was also surprised at the prices. They did put a really lovely design together for us and were very professional. We went a different route in the end (cork flooringówhich has since become my favorite flooring material).

Iím pretty sure IKEA has carpet squares too and that they are far more economical.
nryn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2018, 06:50 AM   #1512
Rivet Master
 
Piggy Bank's Avatar
 
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City , Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,395
Not to be too caviler, but what about taping the backing with duct tape, and re-taping after cleaning?
__________________

__________________

Piggy Bank
Piggy Bank is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
One Pot Meals in a Super Small Space bugsbunny Sprinter and B-van Forum 53 10-13-2017 01:33 AM
Living in 34' AS Fulltime - Living My Parent's Dream.... bugnot1 Member Introductions 14 12-21-2010 08:40 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.