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Old 08-22-2016, 07:36 AM   #29
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If AS brings out a new moho based upon a small truck chassis, it would need a couple years of debugging before purchase.
RVs are kind of like Microsoft products— they're no good at all until at least Version 3.0… And just like Microsoft products, the RV consumers are used as unpaid beta-testers! At least the RV industry hasn't quite reached the point where they call bugs and glitches "features."
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:33 AM   #30
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Mmmm, maybe this is why at one time I "needed" a 44' Moho, all for myself. Thanks, Protagonist

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I saw a reference to the Polaris Slingshot, which is IMO nothing even resembling a motorcycle, but with a car engine/transmission, side by side seating, and not spectacular performance, I believe the Can Am Spyder where the rider is in the wind, this is what every older rider can find fun.

As I am only giving the Interstate consideration, but want to stick with thew AS line to maintain presence in WBCCI, I have lots of time to think about all this.

Great input by everyone.
In a way the Polaris Slingshot looks kinda cool. In another way it looks cheap and plastic. It is just a GM drive train- 2.5 L 4 cylinder engine and 5 speed transmission- driven the same way you drive a car- steering wheel, foot clutch, foot brake, foot throttle, stick shift- not a bike- Since it is really a car there is probably no requirement for a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license to operate a Slingshot.
Although the Can-Am Spyder is ridden like a motorcycle, I still think there is too much plastic going on. It just isn't for me, but still cook in a way. I would like to ride one sometime just to see how it is. You probably do have to have a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license to operate a Spyder since it is ridden like a bike I assume- handlebar, hand clutch, foot shift, hand and right foot brake...
If I ever feel the need for a three wheeler or trike I will get a matching side car for my Road King- same fender, light, wheel, tire, chrome trim, pin strip... Part of me thinks side cars are cool and old school, retro, art deco... Like the bike itself- basic design/style began in the 30's, like Airstream trailers.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:41 AM   #31
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An Interstate would be cool as a family car/daily driver.
Drive it to work or shopping or visiting people who generally don't have groceries-
Have a kitchen and bathroom with you everywhere you go-
Take your lunch break at work in it-
It gets 19 mpg.


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That's exactly how I used ours. Took one long trip out to Arizona, was like camping in a 16 footer.
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In a way the Polaris Slingshot looks kinda cool. In another way it looks cheap and plastic. It is just a GM drive train- 2.5 L 4 cylinder engine and 5 speed transmission- driven the same way you drive a car- steering wheel, foot clutch, foot brake, foot throttle, stick shift- not a bike- Since it is really a car there is probably no requirement for a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license to operate a Slingshot.
Although the Can-Am Spyder is ridden like a motorcycle, I still think there is too much plastic going on. It just isn't for me, but still cook in a way. I would like to ride one sometime just to see how it is. You probably do have to have a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license to operate a Spyder since it is ridden like a bike I assume- handlebar, hand clutch, foot shift, hand and right foot brake...
If I ever feel the need for a three wheeler or trike I will get a matching side car for my Road King- same fender, light, wheel, tire, chrome trim, pin strip... Part of me thinks side cars are cool and old school, retro, art deco... Like the bike itself- basic design/style began in the 30's, like Airstream trailers.
If it has three wheels it is considered a motorcycle in almost all states. That's why you don't see more three wheeled cars.
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Two Words: Wet Bath

After many years in cruising sailboats, I will never own an RV with a wet bath.


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Old 08-22-2016, 11:56 AM   #34
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After many years in cruising sailboats, I will never own an RV with a wet bath.
That's a matter of preference. I genuinely don't mind a wet bath. Using the toilet (lid down) as a de facto shower seat is handy.

Especially if you conserve water by taking Navy showers, you probably spend less time in the bathroom than you do in any other part of the RV (unless you have digestive issues we don't need to know about), so it only makes sense to use the least amount of space for the bathroom, so you have more room left over for the areas you'll use more often and for longer periods of time.

My only complaint about the wet bath in an Interstate is that I need to open the door in order to have enough elbow room to towel off.
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Airstream got it right with the design on my 25FB! The shower is separate and across the passageway from the toilet/sink. Both are adequate size for us and no wasted space. The shower has a built-in seat if one wishes. Moreover, cleanup of the shower is insignificant, unlike wiping down all of the teak in my boat's wet bath.

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Moreover, cleanup of the shower is insignificant, unlike wiping down all of the teak in my boat's wet bath.
A couple of times a year, I wax my fiberglass wet bath with Turtle Wax Ice spray wax. Makes cleanup really simple, no need to even wipe it down after a shower.
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Out riding my new Can AM.... LOL

Well, I am back, and enjoy the comments about the wet bath. Yes, some inconvenience, but as noted, when you get small, you get small. I still have at least one more year with my Serenity to get this figured out, so no real rush.

Meanwhile, I will attest to the fact the new Can Am Spyder, mine is an F3 Limited SS, in all black, is wonderful to ride on, very very quick, and the full plastic body work seems to be the correct design decision to keep weight down and make the panels easy to replace if needed.

Who knows, maybe in a a year or so, in a tailer behind an Interstate.

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That's a matter of preference. I genuinely don't mind a wet bath. Using the toilet (lid down) as a de facto shower seat is handy.
+1

Spent a lot of time on sailboats of all shapes and sizes, and a warm shower in a wet bath beats a cold saltwater shower every time. It's all a matter of perspective.
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Our camping friend still has an Allegro Bus AND a Hi-Lo trailer AND a raised roof Chevy Express conversion van with a couch/bed in the back AND an Interstate.
She prefers the Interstate for her and her Peekapoo.
I took the Allegro bus out a couple of times while my trailer is in the repair shop.
The living space and storage space is awesome in the bus.
She still occasionally uses the Allegro bus for local campgrounds.
She never uses the Hi-Lo or the Express van for camping any more.
She uses the Interstate all the time.
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RVs are kind of like Microsoft products— they're no good at all until at least Version 3.0… And just like Microsoft products, the RV consumers are used as unpaid beta-testers! At least the RV industry hasn't quite reached the point where they call bugs and glitches "features."
Hey, hey, hey! I worked for Microsoft for more than a decade!

I tell you, Microsoft does things a hell of a lot better than any RV manufacturer. For example we had usability labs where we would bring in people to try to use the new features before a product was designed and watched them through a one-way glass. We would catch a lot of issues this way. Had we put the AI through it, they would be a heck of a lot easier to use.

I guess there is no worse shame than being far worse than Microsoft.
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As much as I love my 27FB Sterling, I would trade it in a heartbeat for a Leisure Van Unity Flex (FX). I got to see one in person and I've been in love ever since. The build quality seemed phenomenal. It's perfect for two but it doesn't work with our family of four-so I suppose after the kids don't want to camp with us any longer we will make the trade You should check it out!
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I would trade it in a heartbeat for a Leisure Van Unity Flex (FX).
Nice, that is *exactly* what Airstream should be competing against if they enter this market as is expected via the rumor mill.
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