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Old 07-12-2018, 07:40 PM   #15
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Our 2007 (TIN) Interstate came with the Carefree awning and all went well until it would not wind back up a few weeks back. When we went to stow it, as soon as the crank was turned even a little bit the awning let loose and extended way more than it ever had before. Trying to wind it back in with the crank did not work as it seemed the gears were stripped. With help from others we were able to get it wound back in eventually by pushing forcefully on the crank and also pushing on the two spring loaded arms.
once all was wound back in a we strapped everything together with a zip tie at each end and that is the way it still is.
My guess is the gears are stripped but can see no way to get to them so if anyone has had to do this (I saw the entry from Sebtown and figured there must be a way)
The other choice is to not use the awning but we did find it helpful - our local RV repair guy is so busy this time of year might have to wait a while, so any suggestions would sure be appreciated - Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:22 AM   #16
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Hi, Bob - long time no chat. Thanks for the heads up - our Carefree has never given any sign that something might let go on it, but it's good to know the failure mode, if a failure were to occur. Next obvious question is whether replacement parts could be bought for it.
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Old 07-15-2018, 01:03 PM   #17
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We had a hand crank Fiamma on our Scamp TT. It really was a nice awning. It extended quite far from the side and required the braces to be attached to the side of the trailer, or placed vertically to the ground. It deployed easily and retracted fully into the can. I believe it was a F-40. I like it better than the ZipDee we have on our AS.
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:40 AM   #18
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Ruscal and others with hand crank models,

What secures the awning in place once it's retracted? Is it a self latching mechanical catch?

Are the gears for winding it in the same fragile, breakable plastic we've grown to hate so far?

At this point, between gravity, road vibrations, 65mph, and side gusts I'm a bit leary of any and all solutions...


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Old 07-18-2018, 07:34 AM   #19
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I too am leery based upon the failures that have been reported. We are embarking on a 9000-ish mile trip to AK this Saturday, and last night I installed Velcro straps around the awning front and rear. We have only used the awning a couple of times, so the above solution should not prove to be too inconvenient. Far less inconvenient than an inadvertent deployment at highway speeds!

I wanted to disable power to the awning, to prevent accidental extension with the straps in place. Per Airstream wiring diagram 953058S3 the awning (and step/awning buzzer) receives power from 20 A fuse 12 under the drivers seat and the step receives power from 10A fuse 10, But I found that puling fuse 10 or 12 did not remove power from the awning motor, So instead I pulled the wire from one of the terminals on the back of the awning switch. I pulled each wire until I found one that did not allow the awning to extend when pushing the extend side of the switch.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:03 AM   #20
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Thanks, Titus.

On our 2015 the power for both awning and power step come from Fuse #10 under drivers seat. If I get an electric model installed I'll investigate having those wires separated and run to two different fuses.

We are half way to New England from Oregon now. I'll be starting a post soon about my rear suspension woes. Tried to do upgrades at the last minute and trusted the wrong "professionals" !

Best of fortune on your trip to AK !!
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:37 AM   #21
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I was not clear above. What I meant is that pulling 10 or 12 did not remove power from just the awning motor. Pulling 25A fuse 10 removed power to the awning and the step. I don't know what fuse 12 does. I wanted to kill awning power but not step power, so I pulled a wire from the back of the awning switch.
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:32 PM   #22
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I called Carefree directly and they provided an updated part number. I ordered the part from one of their retailers. The installation of the gear box was relatively easy. I did have to file the ball end of my hand crank to fit the crank slot on the new gear box. PM me as I may have the part number saved.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:13 AM   #23
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Regarding the crank out Fiamma I can't recall if it had a retention device. To deploy I simply inserted the crank with a hook on the end into a loop that protruded out from the gear box and cranked the awning open about a foot, and then dropped the legs that were contained in the clamshell box. Then adjusted the legs to the ground and walked them out as the awning was advanced every three feet or so. It was very simple to use. It took about 2 minutes from stowed to set up position. Very slick.
As far as plastic gears go, I would not worry about them on a hand crank model if the awning was not abused. I also would not think that the awning could be sucked out of the box in any wind conditions.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:08 PM   #24
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I answered my own question on the differences between Carefree and Fiamma mounting rails.

Here's the photos of the Carefree Awning mount on a (2016?) silver AI vs the Fiamma mounting rail on my 2015 white AI. There are no side mount plates for support arms on the silver AI which tells me this CF awning has either self supporting arms like the Fiamma, or ones that fold down to the ground like some can.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:20 PM   #25
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Yes, the Fiamma 65 Eagle can also be deployed part way and we did so often. Now I want to deploy it off a high bridge.


The easiest replacement is <sigh> another Fiamma. Although I am tempted to go with the F65 non-Eagle, so no auto-retract. Maybe even go with the model without a motor. It pains me to consider this but the brackets are already there and can be re-used.

Would love to see how a Carefree looks on an Interstate or other Sprinter body when it is retracted. Close-up pictures anyone?


While waiting for my Fiamma replacement awning to get installed, I noticed this 2016 (I think) Interstate in the service back lot with a Carefree awning. The rail is not quite the same but it's very similar. If only Carefree had people that knew the ins and outs of what rigs their products would fit on, and how. As it is, their tepid and much delayed response cost them a sale.

In the the end I bit my lip, puckered my cheeks, and ordered another Fiamma for the sake of the next owner of this vehicle someday and because I foresaw an issue with the insurance co. coughing up for a different product that might require more expense to configure and install where a Fiamma once sat. Then will all unused holes be safely sealed? Then there is the story from Shamus of their CF awning having the same accidental deployment issue as well so would I really have better off?

So we got the new awning delivered to the AS dealer in Scarborough (Portland) Maine. Ordered it with the LED lights that they spec and install for you at the factory. No chance of getting warm white I'm told. It's crappy bright white or nothing. It's good they install them on the part of the awning that extends out. OK, great. So the light shines down on your party instead of into the neighbor's area. Nice.

Not so fast. Here is the result. They mount the LEDs up inside the casing so they cast a light onto the underside of the awning and onto the side of your vehicle and NONE of the light helps you by shining downward on your camp zone. Notice the shadow line on the ground next to the AI. The only way you can tell your partner is sitting in their camp chair is from the 10 lumens that bounce off the AI. Heaven help you if you have a black Interstate. You'll have to apply glow in the dark tape to your camp chairs to avoid trip hazards. What a disaster. Part Two of this rant coming up.



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Old 01-28-2019, 08:44 AM   #26
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2016 Interstate Awning Rip Off

This is outrageous. 2016 Interstate..6,000 miles....awning extended a total of 9 times. On the 9th extension it hung up and would not retract. Used the manual retraction..took it to North Trail RV in Fort Myers..... $900 for a replacement motor. Airstream said the Fiamma product is only warranted for 12 months despite the Airstream 36 month warranty..Airstream declined the warranty claim.

I feel 'violated'...anybody else experience such enjoyment?

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Old 01-28-2019, 12:12 PM   #27
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About $100 more than that motor would get you a whole new manual awning, but you'd need to install those clippy / slidey things on the side of your van for anchoring the legs. And I'm not sure how a roof-mounted configuration would work (T1N awnings are side-mounted).

Knock wood, our Carefree Freedom is now twelve years old and we've never had an issue with it. There is a gear that eventually wears out on them, but one of the off-forum T1N Interstate owners got into a sharing mood recently, and emailed me his DIY replacement instructions - it's a pretty straightforward fix. (Speaking of which, if any of the T1N owners here would like a Powerpoint with those instructions, PM me with your email.)

I'm starting to use our awning more and more, now that I'm developing additional under-awning accessories such as this new one:

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Old 01-28-2019, 01:34 PM   #28
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This is outrageous. 2016 Interstate..6,000 miles....awning extended a total of 9 times. On the 9th extension it hung up and would not retract. Used the manual retraction..took it to North Trail RV in Fort Myers..... $900 for a replacement motor. Airstream said the Fiamma product is only warranted for 12 months despite the Airstream 36 month warranty..Airstream declined the warranty claim.

I feel 'violated'...anybody else experience such enjoyment?

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PIRATECHRIS - Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, they are right. It is clearly spelled out in the AS Terms of Warranty. And if you dig up the Fiamma or Carefree of CO Warranties, they have an OEM Warranty that at the discretion of AS, they might extend their 1 year warranty. But that is at AS discretion, which clearly they do not want to do. Yes, it sucks, they advertise 3 yrs but have all these exclusions.
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