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Old 07-09-2015, 05:00 PM   #43
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Maggie, I agree, don't worry, be happy

My biggest problem to date has been with my Mercedes engine on a warranty issue that MB was trying to deny coverage. With some coaxing MBz saw the light and did the right thing.
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:17 PM   #44
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The true fix to the air conditioning problem in the Sprinter is a ducted system similar to the one that is used in my Tahoe. One engine driven compressor and two evaporators does the whole thing. Obviously for a box the size of the Sprinter, one with a higher capacity compressor. Maybe they could utilize the optional rear air that comes with Sprinter to accomplish this.
There is no way that a one ton unit is going to cool the back of the Sprinter. And cracking one of the rear windows does not help. We just drove through Georgia and Florida today in 95 degree heat and the rear air was severely overtaxed. In other words the rear of the RV was like an oven. I did discover a blast of hot air coming out of the grill over the microwave. It was more than just the exhaust off the refrigerator. Sealed the grill and that helped but not sure where the outside air is coming in. Maybe the same place the mice get in.
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:35 PM   #45
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One of the big problems with the Interstate's rooftop AC is the lack of insulation in the van. The floor is well-insulated, and the roof is sort-of insulated, but those big windows all around let in beaucoup heat; and near as I can tell, the rear doors are not insulated at all. As for the walls below the side windows, who knows how well— or even if— they're insulated.

I'm giving serious consideration to applying a low-emissivity film to the side and rear windows of my Interstate, on the outside of the glass. That's the only way short of disassembling the interior of the van to cover the entire glazed surface with the film, since the framed openings inside are a lot smaller than the size of the glass panels. Too bad I can't legally put the film on the windshield or front roll-up windows…

I've used low-e film on windows before, on an office building we retrofitted when I was still working for a living. In direct sunlight the low-e film on the outside of the glass literally got too hot to touch (first-degree burns in fifteen seconds or less!), while the inside surface of the same pane of glass was relatively cool to the touch. It did an excellent job of blocking heat transfer through the glass.

With less heat coming into the van through the windows, the rooftop AC should have an easier time keeping up.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:02 AM   #46
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I thought about the film also. If it's transparent, why would it be illegal on the W/S? Also didn't know you could use it on the outside.

Also thought about using some of that thin plastic insulation with reflective foil on the side glass between the curtains and the glass. I think someone on the forum mentioned doing that. The problem would be the lack of light.

I insulated the rear door when I had the plastic panels off to isolate them from the metal to stop the squeaking. The walls appear to be insulated but a couple of inches of fiberglass doesn't provide much R value.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:46 AM   #47
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This has become the grandaddy of all sideways threads, so let me note again regarding insulation:

When hubster and I were installing our rear and side camera system, we discovered that Airstream had not installed any insulation in the cab roof above the customized Interstate liner. We actually found something akin to R13 fiberglass in some of the wall areas, although it was a bit squashed. But nothing in the cab roof, just bare metal.

We installed a layer of Dynamat followed by a layer of radiant barrier before replacing the cab liner (scope creep). BIG improvement in both noise dampening and thermal control. My last trip was to east Texas two weeks ago. It was 94 degrees outside, full blasting sun in a cloudless sky, with ultra-high humidity. I noticed that the A/C was working hard, but for the first time in such conditions, I was comfortable in the cab. No "complaints".

Obviously this one fix won't resolve the rest of the body-related issues, but my conclusion is that it was a little project well worth doing. No question.
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:26 AM   #48
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To the "just enjoy" proponents:

Never once have I seen a poster criticize any one of you for DECLINING to engage in workarounds that are not important to you personally.

Why, then, would you criticize those who DO seek out and engage in workarounds?

Isn't common reciprocal courtesy called for in that scenario?

When someone attempts to shut down another poster with declaratory judgments, there is more than the simple expression of opinion in play. Accusing a noise question-asker of having a "glass half empty focus" begins to enter the realm of attempted domination. That would be on parity with one of us DIYers asking you a confrontational question along the lines of, "WHY are you not engaging in this improvement? Do you not care what condition your Interstate is in?"

But you'll notice that no DIYer does that kind of thing. We will continue to know better.
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I thought about the film also. If it's transparent, why would it be illegal on the W/S?
Some states may allow it; Louisiana doesn't, except for a narrow band above the level of the inside rear-view mirror, above the normal line of sight, in other words the area that would be covered by the visors if you fold them down.

The law doesn't specifically address low-e films, just window films of any type. No films in the driver's field of view anywhere ahead of the driver's and passenger's B-pillars— in other words, front door windows and windshield. A cop acquaintance of mine says that the idea is that any film can obstruct the driver's view, and can obstruct law enforcement's view of the driver as well.
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:56 PM   #50
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Does the low-E film give the glass a slight brassy look?
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Does the low-E film give the glass a slight brassy look?
Some brands can.
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:38 PM   #52
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To the "just enjoy" proponents:

Never once have I seen a poster criticize any one of you for DECLINING to engage in workarounds that are not important to you personally.

Why, then, would you criticize those who DO seek out and engage in workarounds?

Isn't common reciprocal courtesy called for in that scenario?

When someone attempts to shut down another poster with declaratory judgments, there is more than the simple expression of opinion in play. Accusing a noise question-asker of having a "glass half empty focus" begins to enter the realm of attempted domination. That would be on parity with one of us DIYers asking you a confrontational question along the lines of, "WHY are you not engaging in this improvement? Do you not care what condition your Interstate is in?"

But you'll notice that no DIYer does that kind of thing. We will continue to know better.
It kinda comes down to beating a dead horse.

I think we can all agree that Airstream could do better.

There is no doubt some have had more problems than others, but I don't know of any member of this forum who is not all about solutions to things that break, shoddy work or helpful modifications.

I just don't think it is helpful for former Airstream owners (or others) to come on this board and preach about how THOR should do business. It is THOR's business and they can do it however they feel whether it costs them past, present or future customers.
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Old 07-10-2015, 03:12 PM   #53
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I would add to what Ron said......I don't think anyone is putting down those who want workarounds or those that are doing workarounds. Are they?

Even if someone is, others aren't and are generally willing to help.

This seems to be largely a matter of interpretation and may stem from ones approach to life, IB....and your narratives are starting, quite frankly, to sound very personal.

If you don't like what I say, don't read my posts, and feel free to offer your own counter opinion.

There is room for all of us here, and more than one response or approach to any question, and we don't have to agree.

I am not going to get in a bitchfest, and am now out of this thread.


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This has become the grandaddy of all sideways threads, so let me note again regarding insulation:

When hubster and I were installing our rear and side camera system, we discovered that Airstream had not installed any insulation in the cab roof above the customized Interstate liner. We actually found something akin to R13 fiberglass in some of the wall areas, although it was a bit squashed. But nothing in the cab roof, just bare metal.

We installed a layer of Dynamat followed by a layer of radiant barrier before replacing the cab liner (scope creep). BIG improvement in both noise dampening and thermal control. My last trip was to east Texas two weeks ago. It was 94 degrees outside, full blasting sun in a cloudless sky, with ultra-high humidity. I noticed that the A/C was working hard, but for the first time in such conditions, I was comfortable in the cab. No "complaints".

Obviously this one fix won't resolve the rest of the body-related issues, but my conclusion is that it was a little project well worth doing. No question.
That sounds like a really good idea - just looked up Dynamit on Amazon - Wow, that's expensive - do you recall what size you ordered to get the coverage you wanted? I don't want to order any more than I'll need. Also did you go with the Xtreme flavor?
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That sounds like a really good idea - just looked up Dynamit on Amazon - Wow, that's expensive - do you recall what size you ordered to get the coverage you wanted? I don't want to order any more than I'll need. Also did you go with the Xtreme flavor?
My husband says that he ordered about 20 square feet. We had some left over with which we lined the inside of the rear wheel wells, whence a lot of road noise originates and which were also just bare metal.

Dynamat is one of those products which is pricey and people seem to grumble about that, but when all is said and done, users don't seem to regret spending the money (according to their reviews). It's not a miracle product and it won't make all your issues disappear, but the apparent lack of buyer's remorse was the criterion my husband used when deciding to try it.

On top of the Dynamat he used what he calls "foil sided foam duct wrap". He may have gotten that locally.

I am going to buy more Dynamat to increase soundproofing in the lower areas of the cab. At the same time, I'm going to have replacement carpet floor liners custom made and they will be a better grade than Airstream's OEM. Our Interstate is 8 years old and the cab's snap-in carpet segments are both very thin (which helps with neither insulation nor soundproofing) and in decline (the polymer backing is crumbling and falling off, making a mess).

However, good old subtropical Houston flooded twenty thousand cars in the month of May, and I couldn't get automotive detailing services right now if my life depended on it. I have to wait awhile until the insurance backlog clears out before approaching someone about replicating the carpet segments, so the rest of that project is on hold, too.
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Thanks for the reply - appreciated.
Yes, if it will do the job then the price will be worth it.

I'll give it a try now that I know about how much to order.
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