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Old 05-15-2015, 01:00 PM   #1
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New to Diesel ....

as most know, I remain excited (too much so!) to pick up my 2011 AS Interstate next week. With that, I woke up realizing that I've never owned a diesel and got a bit nervous. Sadly, my nightmare was that I put regular gas in the fuel tank. While that might not happen, I am concerned of the "I don't know what I don't know..." (horrible type A challenge) and want to have any tips of what to listen for, look for or know?
thanks in advance...MJ
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:24 PM   #2
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Two things to check when filling up: first make sure the pump is diesel which usually has a green handle, not always as BP uses green for gas. And second, make sure if it's bio-diesel that it's 5% or less. Personally I won't use bio-diesel even tho MB says it's OK. Same w/ E10 gas.

Might want a pair of gloves because diesel doesn't evaporate as completely as gas and the handle can sometimes be messy. The smell is hard to get off your hands.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:23 PM   #3
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Two things to check when filling up: first make sure the pump is diesel which usually has a green handle, not always as BP uses green for gas. And second, make sure if it's bio-diesel that it's 5% or less. Personally I won't use bio-diesel even tho MB says it's OK. Same w/ E10 gas.

Might want a pair of gloves because diesel doesn't evaporate as completely as gas and the handle can sometimes be messy. The smell is hard to get off your hands.
Wow...did NOT know any of this:-) Guess I need ot read about bio-diseal fuels....thanks again, MJ
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:35 PM   #4
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NEVER RUN OUT OF FUEL.

Restarting a diesel is not just a simple job of filling the tank and cranking it over.

Some are simpler than other but make sure you know how to on your rig and you probably won't ever want to run out.

Water is a killer. I run Stanadyne Blue as a fuel additive. It put back some of what the Government took out of diesel, namely the lubricants, and has a water absorber that should take out normal condensate. You should have a water in fuel indicator on the dash and there should be a water drain instructions in the manual. review it.

If you unit has a turbo do not just stop and turn the engine off. If you do not have an exhaust temperature gauge let the engine run for 20 or 30 second to cool the turbo before shutting down. Failure to cool the turbo will shorten it's life and they are expensive.

Find a diesel forum for your engine and read up.

Don't fret. The additional mileage you will get will offset any momentary reservations.
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and more new things....smiling, as is what I was hoping for...and thanks, I will try to find some other posts re diesel...sincerely appreciating the education. I'm excited about the diesel but do not want to be lulled into 1)OMG I know nothing and afrid or the other extreme of 2) what could go wrong?.....thanks again for your note - MJ
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:19 PM   #6
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You should have a water in fuel indicator on the dash and there should be a water drain instructions in the manual.
In an Interstate there is an idiot light on the dash for water in the fuel filter/water separator, and instructions in the manual; for my 2012 Interstate (2011 Sprinter) it's on page 221 of the Sprinter owner's manual— may be on a different page for newer or older models, but it's in there.

It's a minor worry at best; in 3 years I've never had a problem with water in the fuel, AND never used an additive. The Sprinter engine runs just fine on either straight diesel or B5 diesel— fuel economy is slightly less on B5, but only slightly.

BTW, avoid Love's Country Stores. Every one that I've personally been to carries B20 diesel and your Sprinter engine can't use it.

On Edit— Also avoid any fuel pump labeled "Off Road Use Only." Especially in rural areas, you'll find pumps labeled like that for tractors and other farm implements, and these pumps generally only have Low Sulfur Diesel, 5000ppm of sulfur and it will ruin your Sprinter's DEF system in a heartbeat. Road-use diesel is all Ultra Low Sulfur diesel, 50ppm or less, and that's what you need.
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Water in fuel is like a flat tire. Many have driven for years without a flat but it is still a good thing to know what to do if you have one. Driving to the gas station on a flat is not a good idea. Running with water in fuel light on is much worst in that it will kill the high pressure pump and or the injectors. So stop when it says stop because the warning comes before water is being sent to the pump and injectors.
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Ditto on Protags comments. Especially concerning Love's stations. Very few of them have pure diesel and you don't want to be putting B20 in your sprinter.
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And then there's DEF. The DEF tank holds about 10 gallons which is good for about 10K miles. If you are going to hit that on a trip, it's a good idea to take a gallon and a funnel. You'll get a warning and a limited number of starts (25) and then it locks you out until you add some DEF.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:23 AM   #10
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Do semis use B20? I just checked at a biodiesel website
Retail Map - Biodiesel.org

and all the red dots along I44 between Joplin MO and Amirillo show Loves Travel Centers which cater to semi truck services. So they don't offer other selections of diesel grades?
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Not sure if this advice has been offered before - but try to always get your fuel at places that likely have a high turnover.

When possible, I always try to fuel up at places like Flying J on the interstates.

Reason for this is that diesel fuel left sitting a long time in storage tanks can grow algae with can quickly plug up the diesel fuel filer in your vehicle.

I had this happen once - a couple of years ago. Through my bad planning, I hd no option but to fill up at some seedy little gas station in the middle of nowhere in hills of Pennsylvania.

I remember worrying about it a bit at the time.

About an hour later, the truck went into "Limp mode" on an interstate in NY and would not go more than about 5mph. A message on the dash indicated that my fuel filter had 0% life remaining whereas earlier that day it was at 53% & should have been good for many months yet.

Managed to get off the interstate and had a new filter installed - the tank was near empty and the GMC dealer had no way to drain it even though I asked. They felt it should be ok and luckily it was. Just cost us the price of a filter and a few hours of our day wasted!

I am now all the more careful about where I fill up!


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Understandable fear. After coming off a F150, for the first month I owned a 2008 F250 diesel I kept repeating to myself "dieseldieseldiesel" whenever I pulled up to the pumps. After a few weeks I compartmentalized gas vs diesel vehicles in my fleet. Alternatively, until you compartmentalize, write diesel on a sticky note and stick it on the dash.

You second line of protection for you or an attendant is the green gas cap or the word diesel written on the cap or filling area or both.

Protagonist - great tip on Loves truck stops. 👍
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Modern diesels have been self-priming for quite awhile so in the case of running out of fuel life is a bit easier. Always, ALWAYS ( did I mention ALWAYS) carry an extra fuel filter ( and learn how to change it on the road ). Getting a bad load of fuel is about the only thing, short of a catastrophic mechanical failure, that will leave you dead in the water. ( or at the side of the road). It has happened to me. Enjoy your diesel. Take care of it and it will treat you well.
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Accidentally put gas in diesel? Don't start it. Call for help and be prepared to pay for your error and practice saying over and over, yes dear. Yes dear.

You didn't mention brand and it really doesn't matter for this comment. Carry a spare fuel filter and learn how to change it. You can pick up some nasty fuel not even knowing it and short time later loss of power is first sign of trouble. Change filter, continue. Get another filter ASAP.

Keep the truck engine stock. Save your $ for trips instead.

Keep a record of basic services.
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