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Old 08-04-2016, 11:14 AM   #15
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Congratulations, you bought the right RV. I have 8 grandchildren, I use mine like a SUV on steroids..Have not camp in it... Thank God for the bathroom, and running water., with little guys...Never have to stop for bathrooms.. I can seatbelt 9... Very temped to purchase Winnebago ERA, about 30k difference, but the AI was well worth it. Hopefully the AI will hold its value better.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:28 AM   #16
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So glad you bought the AI. Hope you love it. It is so versatile and all of us owners seem to like it for various reasons. In our case we don't camp. We are in our upper 70s and travel from FL to MO 6 times per year to be with great grand kids and doctors. Love both homes and really like the leisure travel. No airplanes for us. A fridge, TV, wi-fi, and a clean bathroom close by are great features. And unlike our Class A, we can get into Walmart, Steak N Shake, Outback, etc in a snap. Our only discomfort was the loud A/C unit right above our heads when sleeping in hot weather. Solved that by adding a small portable A/C unit, 110V, that sits on the ground behind the coach. Now we sleep in quiet comfort. Just wish we had the new air suspension system. Maybe in a few years. 30,000 miles and counting. Hope you enjoy your new model as we do.
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Old 08-04-2016, 12:10 PM   #17
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Thanks for the info, guys. It seems no matter what features one may have on our AI...We're going to love traveling in it, right?! Evelyn.
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:38 PM   #18
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Thanks everyone!

@RICKBETTY and @markc12v30, thanks for the encouragement! I showed my daughter pictures of the new van today and she started jumping up and down saying "yay yay yay!!!". LOL. My wife still isn't convinced that I haven't lost my mind, but hopefully with a few fun trips under our belt she'll come around. If not, I'm glad it has a comfy bed because I may be sleeping in it for a while!

@ColoradoLady, absolutely, it's about just jumping in and getting one of these and starting the adventures that matters. The little bits and bobs may suit some more than others, and Airstream seems pretty good about retrofits if it's something that really matters to you, but in the end it's about getting out there, no matter what vehicle it is or what features it has. Besides, time marches on, and these things are always going to "evolve". As the sales guy told me, Airstream doesn't make huge changes year to year, they just make small ones based on customer feedback to hopefully improve the model a little bit at a time. Based on what I've seen walking through dozens of their travel trailers covering many model years of production, I'd say that's a pretty accurate description of what I saw. So, yes, regardless of year-over-year model changes, I think everyone should just enjoy the heck out of their rigs.
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:54 PM   #19
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Our only discomfort was the loud A/C unit right above our heads when sleeping in hot weather. Solved that by adding a small portable A/C unit, 110V, that sits on the ground behind the coach. Now we sleep in quiet comfort.
I'm curious, can you tell me more about this AC unit that sits on the ground under the coach and yet keeps the interior cool! Or did you mean a portable generator that's a lot quieter than the underslung Onan?
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:50 PM   #20
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I'm curious, can you tell me more about this AC unit that sits on the ground under the coach and yet keeps the interior cool! Or did you mean a portable generator that's a lot quieter than the underslung Onan?

I solve the noisy A/C with foam ear plugs when sleeping - works great and A/C never wakes me when running. Simple cheap and effective. I started using ear plugs to sleep in noisy environments when I was in the Navy sleeping under the bow catapult on an Aircraft Carrier.


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Mike..earplugs...that will solve my AC noise problem. On my list of things I need! Thanks. As you said...simple, cheap, effective...what's not to like?
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Mike..earplugs...that will solve my AC noise problem. On my list of things I need! Thanks. As you said...simple, cheap, effective...what's not to like?
Earplugs can be uncomfortable to wear for extended periods of time— especially when they're properly fitted. So you'd be trading one type of discomfort for another. Personally I never have a problem sleeping with the air conditioner running. I make sure the A/C fan is running even when the A/C itself is not, because the difference between fan and A/C is not as jarring as the difference between silence and A/C when the A/C kicks on at night.

But if you do go with earplugs, I strongly suggest you test the LPG detector and smoke/CO alarm while you're wearing the earplugs to make sure you can still hear them AND they're still loud enough to wake you up if they go off.

Personally, between definitely hearing the A/C all night and possibly not hearing the CO or LPG detectors, I'll take the A/C noise anytime. It's not loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage, but if you sleep through a CO or LPG alarm you may not wake up, ever again.
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Earplugs can be uncomfortable to wear for extended periods of time— especially when they're properly fitted. So you'd be trading one type of discomfort for another. Personally I never have a problem sleeping with the air conditioner running. I make sure the A/C fan is running even when the A/C itself is not, because the difference between fan and A/C is not as jarring as the difference between silence and A/C when the A/C kicks on at night.

But if you do go with earplugs, I strongly suggest you test the LPG detector and smoke/CO alarm while you're wearing the earplugs to make sure you can still hear them AND they're still loud enough to wake you up if they go off.

Personally, between definitely hearing the A/C all night and possibly not hearing the CO or LPG detectors, I'll take the A/C noise anytime. It's not loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage, but if you sleep through a CO or LPG alarm you may not wake up, ever again.

I don't find the compressible foam ear plugs uncomfortable. I can still hear the A/C but it's not loud enough to keep me awake. I can still hear the alarms including the wake up alarm on my iPhone. I never sleep with generator running or the propane turned on. When it's cold I never run furnace until the morning to take off the chill. But still good advice to be aware that the CO and LPG alarms are there to keep you alive.


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The add on A/C unit was a bit complicated but the final project turned out good. It is a standard room window a/c, 8000btu, that I carry behind the lounge---weighs about 60#--so it is easy to set on the ground upon arrival at my campground. After hooking up the 110V power, I plug in the a/c and turn it on with the remote. The unit had to be modified to have a simple 4" dia room air input and a similar cold air output. I did that by removing the plastic shroud and making two sheet metal manifolds, one for cold air and one for return air. (It helps to have sheet metal fabricating capability.) The remaining problem was to then run two 4" flexible pipes into the back floor of the AI. This was done in the extreme back corners of the coach with tight fitting 4" pvc components. (Perfect fits and extra care in sealing keeps road odors out while driving.) It takes all of 5 minutes to set it up or take it down in the am. The procedure is this: When setting up for the night I have both a/c units running---the loud one set at 78 degrees and the quiet one set at 74. By the time we crawl in bed the loud one cycles OFF and only the quiet one runs. The extreme back of the coach is the only place where it is 74---but that's OK.
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The add on A/C unit was a bit complicated but the final project turned out good. It is a standard room window a/c, 8000btu, that I carry behind the lounge---weighs about 60#--so it is easy to set on the ground upon arrival at my campground. After hooking up the 110V power, I plug in the a/c and turn it on with the remote. The unit had to be modified to have a simple 4" dia room air input and a similar cold air output. I did that by removing the plastic shroud and making two sheet metal manifolds, one for cold air and one for return air. (It helps to have sheet metal fabricating capability.) The remaining problem was to then run two 4" flexible pipes into the back floor of the AI. This was done in the extreme back corners of the coach with tight fitting 4" pvc components. (Perfect fits and extra care in sealing keeps road odors out while driving.) It takes all of 5 minutes to set it up or take it down in the am. The procedure is this: When setting up for the night I have both a/c units running---the loud one set at 78 degrees and the quiet one set at 74. By the time we crawl in bed the loud one cycles OFF and only the quiet one runs. The extreme back of the coach is the only place where it is 74---but that's OK.
Thank you - that was really what I was asking about. A complex solution, and it seems to work fine for you.
Interestingly, here in the southwest where its usually dry, I've seen a swamp cooler solution which is very effective and runs off 12V!
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The add on A/C unit was a bit complicated but the final project turned out good. It is a standard room window a/c, 8000btu, that I carry behind the lounge---weighs about 60#--so it is easy to set on the ground upon arrival at my campground. After hooking up the 110V power, I plug in the a/c and turn it on with the remote. The unit had to be modified to have a simple 4" dia room air input and a similar cold air output. I did that by removing the plastic shroud and making two sheet metal manifolds, one for cold air and one for return air. (It helps to have sheet metal fabricating capability.) The remaining problem was to then run two 4" flexible pipes into the back floor of the AI. This was done in the extreme back corners of the coach with tight fitting 4" pvc components. (Perfect fits and extra care in sealing keeps road odors out while driving.) It takes all of 5 minutes to set it up or take it down in the am. The procedure is this: When setting up for the night I have both a/c units running---the loud one set at 78 degrees and the quiet one set at 74. By the time we crawl in bed the loud one cycles OFF and only the quiet one runs. The extreme back of the coach is the only place where it is 74---but that's OK.
Sounds neat. Any pics? Especially the AI penetrations.
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So we don't lose this excellent discussion on how to improve the A/C on our rigs, maybe now's a good time to start a new thread on it? As is it might get lost in the midst of a "new AI" discussion.
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Sounds neat. Any pics? Especially the AI penetrations.
I started with a standard 110V window A/C unit, 6,000 BTU bought at Home Depot, $175. The unit fits right behind the lounge for travel (Pic 1). The cold air output is on top and the return air duct is below.

Pic 2 shows the A/C Unit on the ground with the flex hoses hooked up to the AC unit. The next step would be to hook up the other end of each flex hose.

Pic 3 shows the location where the cold air hose comes through the floor---right back in the extreme corner of the AI. When the carpet is pulled back (Pic 4) the 4” dia seal is exposed. Remove the seal and (Pic 5) the PVC pipe fitting is exposed. The return air fitting is in the other back corner of the AI.

Cutting the two holes in the floor took some time but worked out just fine. The beauty of the PVC fittings is that they are perfect friction fits. Fittings were located so the seal would be perfectly flush with the floor, no bump in the carpet.

This is a small unit and WILL NOT cool the whole AI coach. But where we sleep it is cool and comfortable and very quiet.
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