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Old 10-27-2014, 01:17 PM   #15
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Ford wants $150 for the new map update for my '13 Edge, and if I order it before Dec. 31st, they'll waive the 'shipping'...lucky me.
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Old 10-27-2014, 01:27 PM   #16
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I ended up paying the $70......

.....Now to get a reliable BT connection so I can use the weather and personalization features in the SmartLink app on my iPhone.

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If you are having Bluetooth issues make sure you have the latest software update in your unit. They are free from Kenwood. BT was one of the problems they were fixing with updates. Mine works OK now, not great BT if you switch devices often.


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Old 10-28-2014, 08:35 AM   #17
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DNX890HD Maps Update Process

Here is what I had to do to update the maps on my Kenwood DNX890HD.

1) Update firmware to unit:
Kenwood / firmware updater

Instructions:
http://www.kenwood.com/cs/ce/mm/firm...Wupdate_en.pdf

2) Update Map Data
https://kenwood.garmin.com/kenwood/s...playDeviceList

Updating maps required the following actions:
a. insert an SD Card (I used 8GB) into radio slot behind the screen. I pressed the eject button, but still had to use some force on rear of screen to push it down further to reveal the SD slot.

b. in Navigations setting menu; choose upgrade maps. This writes an XML file to the memory card with information Garmin uses to license the update to a single device (from best I can tell).

c. place SD card in laptop and visit the UPDATE MAPS link above.

d. purchase the maps (actually GarminExpress; which manages your updates).

e. Run Garmin Express to install the new map on the SD Card.

f. install the SD card back in radio in van.

I confirmed with Garmin that the SD card MUST stay in the slot to use the new maps; the map is not copied to the radio; the navigation reads it from the SD card.

And now I have all the updated waypoints and cul-de-sacs in North America

I really want to get the bluetooth & SmartLink working properly - that will be next time.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:34 AM   #18
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You mean the micro SD card size? You might be right, but it could also be that was the largest card size available when the manual was printed. Since the cards all have the same contacts on the edge, it's entirely possible that the unit will accept higher-capacity cards just fine; it's just that Garmin won't guarantee that they'll work. You try it at your own risk.
It isn't just the electrical contacts that determine if an SD card can be read or not. The cards come in three different capacity ranges SDSC (standard Capacity - 8 GB), SDHC (High capacity up to 32 GB), and SDXC (eXtended Capacity - up to 2 TB). The firmware in the reader device must recognize and know how to access the different SD card versions. Any reader can handle SD, but not all can read SDHC, and even fewer comprehend SDXC. If the firmware in the system only comprehends SD then you are limited to 8 GB capacity.

On top of that there are different SD bus speeds but fortunately those are backward compatible where the capacity ranges not so much.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:38 AM   #19
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You mean the micro SD card size?
Just so everyone knows: it is full size SD card. I used 8GB because it was plenty big and was the one I had laying around. All files with the 2014 map is 3.9 GB.
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Old 10-28-2014, 12:29 PM   #20
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Just so everyone knows: it is full size SD card. I used 8GB because it was plenty big and was the one I had laying around. All files with the 2014 map is 3.9 GB.
There was also mention of the Nuvi, which takes a micro SD card, and my question about card size was related to that comment.
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Old 10-29-2014, 10:27 PM   #21
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I am pretty annoyed by the $70 charge for a GPS map update. The blame lies entirely on Airstream here.

I have a 2014.5 Interstate with the DNN990HD and integrated Garmin GPS.

Almost all Garmin units are available in a version that includes Lifetime Maps. You can buy a Garmin unit without Lifetime Maps, but I assume nobody dies. On Amazon, across a wide range of models, adding Lifetime Maps adds at most $10 or $20 to the cost of a model.

So Airstream configured this system without Lifetime Maps. I assume Airstream got a great price break on the unit from Garmin, perhaps even getting it for free. Airstream gets to advertise GPS built in, Garmin gets its profit on the map updates, and they're both happy. The customer ends up screwed.

A comparable Garmin unit with Lifetime Maps costs only $100 on Amazon right now. I'll replace the Garmin portion of the Kenwood unit, or replace the entire Kenwood unit (which I loath) before I spend $200 updating maps in the current unit every other year for the next five or six years.

Airstream got a good deal on the GPS at my expense. It is pretty annoying to get burned for a $70 map update on a vehicle I spent north of $140k on, and I totally blame Airstream.

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Old 10-30-2014, 05:55 AM   #22
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However annoyed you might be, the map updates are still worth the price. Just minutes ago, on my way to work, I just narrowly missed a head-on collision with a guy going the wrong way on a one-way street. The guy wasn't willing to back up to clear the street even though he was going the wrong way, and we argued for a bit before I backed up far enough to let him past— despite having the right of way. He said he was "just doing what my GPS told me to do, and it's not my fault!" I didn't ask him when was the last time he updated his maps, but I'd wager he never has, since Garmin updated that particular street as being one-way nearly five years ago.

Keeping your maps updated doesn't just keep you from getting lost as often; it can keep you out of a collision…
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...plus the attitude (being unwilling to back up). Is this the 'new normal'?
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...plus the attitude (being unwilling to back up). Is this the 'new normal'?
If I had to guess, more like the "new drunk."
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:41 AM   #26
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I ended up paying the $70. Not worth that to chase down all the options after looking into it. Note: it doesn't actually "update" the unit, just downloads new maps to SD card that has to stay in unit.

Now to get a reliable BT connection so I can use the weather and personalization features in the SmartLink app on my iPhone.


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Hopefull you didn't just buy the update that came in my 2015. In my first 12,000 miles it has been completely wrong a few times.
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Protagonist, that is a funny story! Stay thirsty my friend!


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Protagonist, that is a funny story! Stay thirsty my friend!
Funny now. Not so funny when I was slamming on my brakes!
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