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Old 09-17-2013, 10:40 AM   #1
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My wife and I visited the Hershey show this past weekend and walked away with a pending deal on a leftover 2013 Interstate Lounge in Black,Camel and Tan. Taking delivery next week. To say we are excited would be an understatement.

Decided to trade in our Winnebago Aspect 29h for a RV experience which will be more in line with our needs,not to mention the fact a solution where we would use the coach much more frequently than we did our Winnebago.

While the deal is progressing, there is till time to make some changes before we close the deal with an Silver Extended version or 2014 in Silver for a cost of course.

Our leftover in question is black. I know the pros and cons of owning a black vehicle but would like to solicit the some feedback from Black Interstate owners who have used / travelled to the southwest in the summer.

How hot does the coach get? Is the A/C unit able to keep the interior cool enough?

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Old 09-17-2013, 11:18 AM   #2
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First of all, welcome! Mine is silver, so I don't know how hot black ones get, but for me, running the roof air means running the generator (very noisy) or being plugged in to shore power (I like boondocking). I use mine as a daily driver so extended use is not an issue. Also, your choice depends on whether the black one is an early 2013 or late 2013. If it's a late 2013, there won't be much, if any, difference with an early 2014. The late 2013 / early 2014 will have a house battery cut off switch by the sliding door, a magnum 1000 watt inverter (vs a Tripp-lite 750 watt inverter), and an awning (without support legs) that automatically retracts in heavy winds. The solar panel and rear TV are also standard on the 2014, but a lot of 2013s had them anyway. Besides, the 50 watt solar panel, in my opinion, needs to be upgraded anyway. I replaced mine with a 100 watt panel and added a 2nd 100 watt panel for a total of 200 watts. As for the extended version vs standard (mine is the ext), it's a trade off. The std length provides better departure angle on steep driveways and the ext version provides more storage. Whenever I drag the rear electrical connector/skids, I wish I had the std version; but whenever we go camping, I'm glad I got the ext version. I guess you can't have it both ways. But I will be replacing the skids with roller wheels next month Good luck and let us know which one you end up with.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:31 AM   #3
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Hello Tiato - and welcome. I live in the Southwest and chose very carefully before deciding on a WHITE Interstate. The dealer is in Scottsdale - a suburb of Phoenix, and I sat in all three colors in the sun before deciding I couldn't possibly live with a black one. Even in winter, the sun is just as fierce and heats up black objects in no time. And in addition, black shows up dust (we have a lot of that too) and fingermarks.
A lesser argument applied to the interior: we went with the light camel.
Regarding the whether the A/C can keep up... it can, as long as you block out the cab windows with quality reflective sunshades. Otherwise the cab would be a constant source of daytime heat.
Finally, the 2014 models have some worthwhile upgrades.
I hope that helps you decide.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:09 PM   #4
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David and Peter,

Thank you for the welcome and feedback.

David, I have already mentioned to my better half that I would increase solar capacity. Could you share the details of your set up. How / where did you mount the additional and larger PV panels?

From your description I believe our unit is an early 2013.

My wife and I have debated the pros and cons between the std. and the ext but she feels we wont need the extra storage provided by the ext as we will be towing a little guy trailer for additional storage and sleeping possibilities.

Furthermore, for at least another 2-3 years we would be benefiting from the std's increased towing capacity for when I tow (4600 lbs between the car and trailer) my car to Watkins Glen, NY for driving events where I coach and instruct for a few car clubs.

Peter, if you live in AZ I am sure the heat and dust with a black unit would be taxing. While its not as hot here in NJ, our trips will no doubt be head to hotter climates. Case in point being a 7000 mile x-country next summer with stops in NM, AZ, UT totaling 10 days before moving on to the Pacific Northwest.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:10 PM   #5
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Our leftover in question is black. I know the pros and cons of owning a black vehicle but would like to solicit the some feedback from Black Interstate owners who have used / travelled to the southwest in the summer.

How hot does the coach get? Is the A/C unit able to keep the interior cool enough?
I have a white Interstate, and on my last trip over the Labor Day weekend, I was at Lake Enid in northern Mississippi. The site I reserved was advertised on Reservation.gov as "partial shade." I didn't know that "partial" really meant, "only after 4pm." My Interstate was in direct sun from the crack of dawn until almost happy hour, every day.

It wouldn't have been so bad if the van was pointed north. No, it was pointed south, so the awning did not provide shade for the van until the trees did. The driver's side was in direct sun all morning, soaking up heat.

To be perfectly honest, the color of the van doesn't make as much difference inside as you might think; the van is insulated, after all. It will make a difference if you happen to touch the metal after it has been in the sun all day, though!

The main factor affecting the a/c's ability to keep the van cool is the windows. Even with the blinds closed, and the factory 90% gray tint on the windows, there are a LOT of windows, which aren't insulated at all. Sunlight beating down on the glass heats the interior really well. Great for winter camping, not so great for summer camping. Before next summer, I'm going to get some Reflectix, or preferably Prodex, and cut some window covers that I can put on the inside between the glass and the blinds on the driver's side and rear windows to help control heat gain. Not as critical on the passenger side, as long as I can put out the awning. Besides, I still want to be able to see out the windows in ONE direction, at least!

I already have good covers for the windshield and front windows.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:55 PM   #6
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Hi Tiato,

My solar panel upgrade was discussed (with pictures) in my "Parked Battery Life" thread down below. Lots of good info there and throughout this forum
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #7
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Good morning,

My wife and I visited the Hershey show this past weekend and walked away with a pending deal on a leftover 2013 Interstate Lounge in Black,Camel and Tan. Taking delivery next week. To say we are excited would be an understatement.


TIA
Lucky you!

Congratulations, and may you love yours even half as much as we love ours.


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Old 09-17-2013, 05:59 PM   #8
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Furthermore, for at least another 2-3 years we would be benefiting from the std's increased towing capacity for when I tow (4600 lbs between the car and trailer) my car to Watkins Glen, NY for driving events where I coach and instruct for a few car clubs.
Cool, another car guy What car do you take to Watkins Glen?
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Maggie, thank you.

David,

Thanks for the solar info.

Used to race a e36 M3 in BMW Club Racing I prepared class. Got tired of all the work that racing entails.

Now my wife and I share my modified '08 V8 M3 Sedan.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:36 PM   #10
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Yeah, M Power!
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M Power indeed. That's the s85. Wonderful and brutal motor. Wicked in the E60 M5.

The s65 (in the m3) is the s85 less 2 cylinders . Best BMW engine I have ever had the pleasure of sitting behind.




Protagonist, thank you also for your feedback yesterday.
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M Power indeed. That's the s85. Wonderful and brutal motor. Wicked in the E60 M5.

The s65 (in the m3) is the s85 less 2 cylinders . Best BMW engine I have ever had the pleasure of sitting behind.
Yes, that V10 engine was in my E63 M6. The M6 was my daily driver before I retired and got the Interstate, and believe it or not, the Interstate gets better mileage than the M6. My friends can't believe how I can go from one extreme to the other (really really fast to really really slow), but I just tell them that I've gone "green"


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Nice M6. Yeah, that s85 is a thirsty engine. I can totally understand and relate to liking it to going green with the Mercedes.

Ive been able to get 24 mpg in my M3 with highway travel. On track it gets 7mpg

Since I get all my kicks on the track, the desire to go fast is gone. When I got into RV travel I found peace at 60mph. Its so nice to slow down and watch the world go by.
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