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Old 08-20-2015, 07:14 PM   #15
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Really interested in the head to head driving/use, ke. How much worse is it. Think I'm getting a pretty good sense.
Having test-driven a variety of B-vans and Class Cs while shopping for my Interstate, the Sprinter-based B-vans are the easiest— and most comfortable— to drive.

For comparison, a long-wheelbase Sprinter van has exactly the same wheelbase and almost the exact same track width in the rear as a long-bed crew-cab Chevy Silverado dually pickup; it's just taller is all. But it has a slightly tighter turning radius than the pickup at slow speeds due to differences in the steering linkage. If you're not going too fast you can really crank it around tight turns for a vehicle that size.

Also, one reason why I decided on the Interstate as opposed to the Winnebago ERA or Roadtrek Adventurous was that it was quieter on the road. The Winnebago in particular was like riding inside an oil drum. Part of the difference I think is the 1-inch foam-sandwich floor Airstream puts in the Interstate, which muffles a lot of the road noise.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:05 PM   #16
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One of my neighbors had a "View" for sale when I was looking at the AI. I checked it out but did not drive it as I wasn't happy with the workmanship and the layout.

One of the quality issues that always stand out when I look at something similar to the "View" is the cheapness of the seating areas. They always have simple foam cushions which are not nearly as comfortable as the seating in the AI and I would question their long term durability as well.

It had a slide out with the requisite hole in the side which I felt had to compromise the overall rigidity of the vehicle. While we occasionally would like to have more room, we feel safer being surrounded by Mercedes steel.

There was a news story recently about Tracy Morgan and his recovery from the very serious accident he had over a year ago. The brief image of the wreck showed what I thought was a Sprinter. I looked up news stories from then with video footage. In one of the the printed stories, it was referred to as a Mercedes Limo Bus but I could see in the video that it was a Sprinter. One person was killed and Tracy was in critical condition but he and others survived the crash despite not wearing seat belts. I wonder what a View would have looked like after a semi, traveling 20mph over the speed limit, crashed into it.

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Old 08-20-2015, 09:50 PM   #17
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Thanks y'all. Im pretty familiar with the designation differences, and also expected the quality comments, so much appreciated. Really interested in the head to head driving/use, ke. How much worse is it. Think I'm getting a pretty good sense. Wife not driving it would be the killer.

Also looked at a pretty nice sports mobile sprinter but with a gas engine, which makes me nervous every. Thank you guys a bunch - Airatream community always great, probably justifies the extra $50k😜

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Old 08-21-2015, 05:01 AM   #18
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Space wise if somehow you can find the first generation Interstate it seemed to me that they had much more room than the current models which I just can't see more than 3 people max using for a weekend. And wet-baths definitely take some getting used to. I will say as far as Winnebago is concerned the ERA-C is one hell of a floor plan in a true class B just with a slide out (any guesses how long it takes Airstream to copy that idea...for that matter every class B manufacturer?)
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With a slide out technically it would be a C.
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:13 AM   #20
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I will say as far as Winnebago is concerned the ERA-C is one hell of a floor plan in a true class B just with a slide out (any guesses how long it takes Airstream to copy that idea...for that matter every class B manufacturer?)
Strictly speaking the Free Spirit SS by Leisure Vans was the first Sprinter-based Class B with a slide-out, and the ERA-C "copied" them.
Leisure Travel Vans - Free Spirit SS - Floorplans

Though one could say that the Roadtrek SS-Ideal, which featured a rear slide-out on the 144" wheelbase, was first, and that's an idea that also could have been adopted by the long wheelbase competitors to provide a larger floor plan but never was.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:27 PM   #21
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We have a 2012 AI. Not the EXT. we use a stowaway2 hitch pod that is perfect for hauling any kind of gear. We have the swing away frame. Great for tailgating. The EXT space in back is not that much room and you can't clean it as easy as the pod. Pod has a drain and can be washed out. The small amount of storage in the view is not worth the trade off of a Class C v. B. See www.stowaway2.com.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:00 AM   #22
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Strictly speaking the Free Spirit SS by Leisure Vans was the first Sprinter-based Class B with a slide-out, and the ERA-C "copied" them.
Leisure Travel Vans - Free Spirit SS - Floorplans

Though one could say that the Roadtrek SS-Ideal, which featured a rear slide-out on the 144" wheelbase, was first, and that's an idea that also could have been adopted by the long wheelbase competitors to provide a larger floor plan but never was.
I had thought about that...but I'm gonna have to start googling now..I didn't mention it at first because I could have sworn the Leisure Travel Van w/ slide out wa a B+ built on a Mercedes cutaway....But right you are the Free Spirit is a standard Class B...one hell of a floorpan and I've heard the build quality is amazing....buuuuttttt....it's Canadian, so, eh.....lol
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Too sad they Roadtrek didn't follow through with the SS Ideal...I thought that was a pretty cool idea...at least when parked. It's like my parent's moho...it's wonderful when you're parked and the slides are out, but as someone who makes the journey just as much a part of the trip as the destination...as much as I love a quad slide, or a full wall slide triple...some of those just get tiiiiigggghhhttttt when the slides are in. I swear some of today's moho manufactures have two departments, "driving" and "camping" and neither of the two talk to each other at all during the design process. Oh, also, to the OP if you're looking for a totally customizable Class B I might as well go ahead and plus Sportsmobile (my friend owns the Fresno, CA dealership)...they can literally just make you anything.
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Sportsmobile has some great stuff, I agree check them out.
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Looked at a neat sports mobile sprinter here locally, but it's an 07 gas engine with 94,000 mile and I have no idea how to value it... Love the layout though. Guy wants $48k for it and I just have a hard time justifying that, wondering what engine life would be.

The leisure travel guys also took some of the slide out chassis and did a two sliding door version - looks pretty neat, really opens up the interior.

Thanks for all of yalls wisdom!
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Rosie, if you decide on the AI, we may have to sell our 2014.5 ext. We love it! Caring for elderly family member so can't use it. 206-793-2484.


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Another option to not overlook Advanced RV located in Willoughby, OH (advanced-rv.com). They make Sprinter Class B vans which are true 4-Season vehicles with a lot of features that put AS to shame including quality, technology, and creature comfort for about the same price as AS, but you may have to get in line...each is custom made to your specs. The vans are almost completely "stealth" with no indication that they are not just a clean nice looking Sprinter, yet inside is everything and more except a slide.
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Another option to not overlook Advanced RV located in Willoughby, OH (advanced-rv.com). They make Sprinter Class B vans which are true 4-Season vehicles with a lot of features that put AS to shame including quality, technology, and creature comfort for about the same price as AS
Everything you say about the features and quality of ARV is correct. Certainly the build quality makes AS look laughable. HOWEVER, saying that they are "about the same price" is a pretty extreme example of wishful thinking. Even if you compare it to MSRP, the price of entry to the ARV world is pretty significantly higher. Moreover, Interstates do not sell at list price. At ARV, they will quote you a price for what you specify, and from then on the price is the price. You will get what you pay for, but it won't be an Interstate-class price.
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