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Old 02-17-2016, 09:10 AM   #15
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Many people/families live full time in RV's these days that may not have fit the typical RV profile just a couple years ago.

Couple of examples from family or people we know.

Man and wife living in Texas in a fifth wheel while working at nuclear plant. They don't even own a tow vehicle. Kept their house back home will retire in a couple years.

College student living in Bay Area for school in a canned ham. No yow vehicle.

Nephew in trailer in SD oil fields, with roommates.

Family lost home in economic downturn, bad credit, bad financial decisions but good income in a CA trailer park with nice trailer with 3 slides. Drive compacts.

Good info thread sorry for hijack.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:34 AM   #16
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Many people/families live full time in RV's these days that may not have fit the typical RV profile just a couple years ago.

Couple of examples from family or people we know.

Man and wife living in Texas in a fifth wheel while working at nuclear plant. They don't even own a tow vehicle. Kept their house back home will retire in a couple years.

College student living in Bay Area for school in a canned ham. No yow vehicle.

Nephew in trailer in SD oil fields, with roommates.

Family lost home in economic downturn, bad credit, bad financial decisions but good income in a CA trailer park with nice trailer with 3 slides. Drive compacts.

Good info thread sorry for hijack.
I don't see it as a hijack because you raise an important piece of perspective - accommodations are lacking in some areas specifically because the RV parks of yesteryear are being put to new uses. In many areas of Texas, they are no longer RV parks - they are man camps for workers who, for one reason or another, cannot get stick and brick housing.

It's not just happening in the oil field. It's happening wherever construction and development are intense. That's the case in much of Brazoria County, Texas, where petrochemical facilities are expanding. I called a park owner down there a few months ago, asking how far in advance I'd have to book to get a hook-up. He said, "You can't - we are permanently full. But you are welcome to park here overnight if you don't need hook-ups." And that was for a "travelers" recreational RV park, not a mobile home park.
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If I were to off-road boondock in an Interstate often I would install air bags in the rear to be used only when going off-road to increase ground clearance,..I had them on my Interstate and they allowed me to backup to higher curbs without grounding anything. Didn't need them while normal driving just when additional clearance was needed while at low speed on rough, irregular roads with potholes and excessive dips.
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If I were to off-road boondock in an Interstate often I would install air bags in the rear to be used only when going off-road to increase ground clearance,..I had them on my Interstate and they allowed me to backup to higher curbs without grounding anything. Didn't need them while normal driving just when additional clearance was needed while at low speed on rough, irregular roads with potholes and excessive dips.
Oh, now THAT is a distant dream, and I'm not sure that any Interstate could ever handle what my husband and I achieved by abusing my two successive Sienna minivans in west Texas, specifically in Big Bend (federal) and Big Bend Ranch (state).

The issue with some destinations is that you have to drive X number of miles into a place before you can then set off on foot to get to the really good stuff. We saw some of the most amazing natural phenomena of our lives by doing that, but we didn't drive over "roads" per se - they were more like ancient overland traces where the vegetation had been scraped away. I have distinct memories of hopping out and accumulating arm-loads of rocks to pile up so that the Sienna could clear one outcrop or another. If one were trying to do that kind of thing in a Sprinter, I think it would have to be one of those specially-adapted "adventure Sprinters" or "exploration Sprinters" rather than any off-the-lot Class B.

That's why I'm particularly interested in back country trail head boondocking, possibly in conjunction with those fold-able bicycles. That way, for example, we could cover the first X miles of any given impassable "road" by all-terrain bicycle, without exhausting ourselves or consuming too many daylight hours on foot. Then proceed the final few miles to the target destination on foot.

Ernst Tinaja in Big Bend (federal) is a prime example of what I mean. Ernst Tinaja is a bucket-list-worthy destination, but there is no way that any Interstate is getting within five miles of it.

There is more than undercarriage clearance at stake. Primitive roads eat tires like nothing else is capable of doing. I was very proud of myself that I drove miles and miles quasi-off-road in west Texas without shredding any Sienna tires. We saw plenty of examples of visitors in supposedly-sturdier vehicles who were not so lucky:
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This is a coincidental thread for us:
We just spent a few days at Las Vegas; not somewhere I'd go willingly, but my wife's work had a corporate conference and she wanted to attend. It was in one of the Hotel/Casinos right in the middle of the Strip, so we parked the Interstate in the Excalibur parking lot where security said it was fine.
3 nights on the Strip, followed by one night at the Oasis Las Vegas RV Resort (about 5 miles south) to replenish the tanks and take showers, then back to the Strip for a further night.
Then on to Flagstaff where we slept at the Medical Center parking lot where I had an early appointment the next morning.
No hitches whatsoever.
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This is a coincidental thread for us:
We just spent a few days at Las Vegas; not somewhere I'd go willingly, but my wife's work had a corporate conference and she wanted to attend. It was in one of the Hotel/Casinos right in the middle of the Strip, so we parked the Interstate in the Excalibur parking lot where security said it was fine.
3 nights on the Strip, followed by one night at the Oasis Las Vegas RV Resort (about 5 miles south) to replenish the tanks and take showers, then back to the Strip for a further night.
Then on to Flagstaff where we slept at the Medical Center parking lot where I had an early appointment the next morning.
No hitches whatsoever.

I see you are from Sedona. We plan on camping at Rancho Sedona for three days in mid-May during our western trip.
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I see you are from Sedona. We plan on camping at Rancho Sedona for three days in mid-May during our western trip.
Rancho Sedona is a city RV park and quite costly by some standards, but quite nice, and you can walk to the city tourist attractions. If you have the choice, try to get one of the creekside sites.
PM me before you come and if we're around we could meet up!
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.... we parked the Interstate in the Excalibur parking lot where security said it was fine....
Then on to Flagstaff where we slept at the Medical Center parking lot where I had an early appointment the next morning.
No hitches whatsoever.
I am finding greater willingness than I expected on the part of private property owners. I have yet to be turned down or even have someone express hesitancy when I've asked for permission to park overnight. If we think in terms of worst-case scenario of an incident on their property, I'm not sure that their insurance companies would like the idea. Walmart, Cracker Barrel and the like... they are OK with it because there's an immediate financial up-side for them which counterbalances risk. But for some others, there doesn't seem to be much in it for them except good will.
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I am finding greater willingness than I expected on the part of private property owners. I have yet to be turned down or even have someone express hesitancy when I've asked for permission to park overnight. If we think in terms of worst-case scenario of an incident on their property, I'm not sure that their insurance companies would like the idea. Walmart, Cracker Barrel and the like... they are OK with it because there's an immediate financial up-side for them which counterbalances risk. But for some others, there doesn't seem to be much in it for them except good will.

You obviously haven't visited Coca Beach, FL. I was visiting friends who had rented a condo on the beach that would not allow full sized vans or pickup trucks to park in their lots. There was a major chain motel across the road with a large, completely empty back parking lot. I asked at the front desk. No was the answer. We eventually parked at the condo and begged forgiveness for our two day stay.


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Good reasons according to the people who made them— at the time they were made— but not necessarily good for the people who have to live by them.
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Doesn't matter when it comes to rvs parking in residential areas on the street or in parking lots. Get a campsite or go where there is no rule against it. Usually there us one person, like the previous poster said parking illegally, that just reinforces the Rules, whether they be just rules or not.
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With any parking lots used by the public, the rules must be clearly posted. In the case of the casino parking lot I used on the LV Strip, the only sign I could see said: "NO TRACTORS WITH TRAILERS ALLOWED". So by implication, anything else is permitted.
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In the Coca Beach incident I described above we were guests of a condo resident. The condo was under construction and the parking lot had plenty of construction trucks parked there. I contacted the president of the condo association and begged him to let us stay for two days. He eventually agreed. The motel across the street was where I was surprised they wouldn't let us stay because their parking lot was nearly empty. But then I assume they don't want to encourage RV, no matter how small.


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