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Old 04-11-2016, 07:04 PM   #15
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Forgot to post follow up. Here's 2 pics of the tire. 2015 AI w/6500 miles. Tire was inner duel on driver side. The Coach Net tech said it was a recapped tire. What? Recap on a brand new AI that had 39 miles when we picked it up? Hoping that's not correct but going to take it to tire store and if that's true both Mercedes, Airstream and the dealer will be hearing from me.....

I check tire pressure everyday on the road prior to starting the day.


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Old 04-11-2016, 09:43 PM   #16
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That Coach-net tech is wrong. The tire sidewall split right where the thread starts, just like a recap might separate. My Continentals did the same thing when I ran the inner dual flat for about 100 miles. Its a damaged tire - not a recap.
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:31 PM   #17
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So a 2015 AI doesn't have factory installed TPMS? I rented a 2016 Pleasure way Ascent (MB Sprinter 144 WB) recently, and it had what looked like factory TPMS on the center display in the dash. And for what it's worth, so do most cars that cost more than $30k. That is a huge miss by MB/AS.
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:40 PM   #18
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So a 2015 AI doesn't have factory installed TPMS? I rented a 2016 Pleasure way Ascent (MB Sprinter 144 WB) recently, and it had what looked like factory TPMS on the center display in the dash. And for what it's worth, so do most cars that cost more than $30k. That is a huge miss by MB/AS.
Because the Sprinter 3500 vans have a GVWR over 10,000 pounds, they are exempt from Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard #138 that requires TPMS on all vehicles under 10k GVWR.

All Sprinters have a TPMS-capable dashboard display, because they all use the same dashboard. That doesn't mean they actually have TPMS installed. Your owner's manual also refers to TPMS because all Sprinters use the same manual, but it's not there on your van.

Besides, the Airstream Interstate Alcoa aluminum wheels aren't factory-standard, and so an Interstate couldn't have factory-standard TPMS either. Mercedes OEM inside-the-tire TPMS sensors wouldn't fit. All they could ever have is aftermarket sensors, which probably wouldn't work with the Mercedes dashboard display to begin with.
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Old 04-12-2016, 12:12 AM   #19
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I am seriously considering flying protag out to California to do my inspection with me when I pick up my 2016 4x4 in a few weeks...... just saying'.
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I am seriously considering flying protag out to California to do my inspection with me when I pick up my 2016 4x4 in a few weeks...... just saying'.
Not going to happen. I don't fly, after a disagreement with airport security back in 2004. They tell you to not leave your bags unattended, over and over. I was pulled out of line for a more invasive screening, and when I went to fetch my laptop case carry-on off the conveyor, they wouldn't let me. While I was being searched, my laptop was stolen. I raised holy Hell over that, and for my trouble I was escorted off the airport property by armed National Guardsmen. When I filed a written complaint, the official response from the airport management was, "You are mistaken. That did not happen."

I doubt that I'm on a no-fly list or anything, because they never even took my name when they booted me out of the airport. I'm merely boycotting the aviation industry, for the rest of my natural— or unnatural— life.
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I know that I shouldn't laugh, but your story just caught me in the right mood, I can't help myself. Your reaction is priceless!
I'll bet there are many of us who would have done the same.
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Yes, you should laugh. I happened a dozen years ago. I've grown philosophical about it. As the saying goes, "The only difference between a disaster and an adventure lies in how you tell the story afterwards." But while I eventually got a good story out of it and turned it into an adventure, I'm still boycotting the aviation industry!
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That Coach-net tech is wrong. The tire sidewall split right where the thread starts, just like a recap might separate. My Continentals did the same thing when I ran the inner dual flat for about 100 miles. Its a damaged tire - not a recap.
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I have never heard of the folks sent out to provide roadside service being given tire engineering training. Just because someone has changed a few dozen or even hundred tires in their life does NOT make them a tire expert.


Laidback. Checking air pressure in campground before driving is about as helpful as checking the engine oil dipstick. It only tells you what you had at that time. Have you considered removing oil pressure and water temp gauges from instrument panel? After all you can check those levels every day and not have to rely on warning gauges. end of snarky comment

I'm not clear on how you know how many miles you drove with one duel flat or very low on air.
If you drove on the tire when it had lost more than 20% of its air you may have done damage. Putting air back in a tire you have damaged will no more "fix it" than putting a burnt hot dog back in the fridge fix the burnt dog.
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I'm not clear on how you know how many miles you drove with one duel flat or very low on air. .....
I checked the tire pressures when I started driving in the morning. I drove about 150 miles before checking them at a rest stop. I just guessed it was run low/flat about 100 mile. Either way the tire was ruined.

I now have a TST Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) as this is the only way you can constantly monitor your tire pressures.
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I checked the tire pressures when I started driving in the morning. I drove about 150 miles before checking them at a rest stop. I just guessed it was run low/flat about 100 mile. Either way the tire was ruined.

I now have a TST Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) as this is the only way you can constantly monitor your tire pressures.
Probably the 1 millionth question about TPMS:
  • arrived at the campground Friday pm w/ a screw in the passenger inside dually and losing air quickly.
  • couldn't get the flat changed/repaired until Monday am (too remote and a weekend) That was no problem; we put a lot of miles on our folding bikes and had a great weekend.
  • I asked the mobile tire-changer, with 28yrs experience, about TPMS. He said no...add-ons to stems cause more leaks and problems. He recommended checking pressure by hitting each tire with a hammer () I'm not laughing at him, I"ll bet he's really expert at that. Just the thought of ME doing that and getting an accurate reading.
  • I had also asked the salesman about TPMS; he said no ...he's seen more fails / blowouts due to false sense of security and faulty TPMS systems

However ... reading these posts; My conclusion is that I need to replace the plastic stems with metal ones, extended, so that at MINIMUM I can check my own tire pressure and add air when needed. And ... I should probably go ahead and get an TPMS no matter what the salesman and tire changer said.

Seems like there's a consensus on the longer, metal, stems brand from the links above.. What about recommended TPMS brands ? TST?
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I carry a plug kit and a small 12VDC air pump. I check pressure before trip departure and then just do a visual each day and a tap with a hammer. I do not trust anything on the stem and rely only on OEM TPMS (inside the wheel).
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I"m having a VERY difficult time checking pressure with the valve stems that came on the wheels. What OEM TPMS?
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I believe Mcrider was referring to TPMS in general, not necessarily TPMS on his Interstate.

I'm not aware of ANY Sprinter 3500s that come with TPMS. Because they have a gross weight in excess of 10,000 pounds, they are exempt from the TPMS requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 138.

The Sprinter 2500s come with TPMS, and all NCV3 Sprinters have computer logic to support OEM TPMS (including the dashboard idiot light) but that doesn't mean that all Sprinters are equipped with the in-tire pressure sensors.

I invested in metal valve extensions, straight ones for the inner duals and J-shaped ones for the outer duals, so that I don't need to find a service station with push-pull air valve chucks when I need to air up my tires. And I routinely check tire pressure with a handheld gauge rather than putting TPMS sensors on the valve extensions.
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