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Old 02-17-2019, 04:48 PM   #1
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Incinerator Toilet In 2018 AI

Hi there, wondering if anyone has researched putting an incinerator toilet into an AI. I am going to be staying on land I own this summer for three months. I have a 30amp and water but no septic and I don’t want a septic tank. I will be using a rental car to drive around. Not crazy about a compost toilet & like the incinerator for it’s claim that a family if four can do their biz over a week and the result is a handful if ashes.
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Look at the Tiny John offering from EcoJohn. I'm strongly considering one.
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CARPENC - this a good idea but how to address the space/clearance needs of an incinerator + vent system since the AI has very limited space? (guessing you can't have this close to the walls due to heat during 1hr combustion phase)
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Yep, but think how great it would be on those cold mornings. [emoji16]
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Yep, but think how great it would be on those cold mornings. [emoji16]
PAT - better than heated toilet seats. Reminds me of Tim "Toolman" Taylor - "Man's Bathroom" episode

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Old 02-17-2019, 07:46 PM   #6
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PAT - better than heated toilet seats. Reminds me of Tim "Toolman" Taylor - "Man's Bathroom" episode

Ha, ha. I had not heard of this. Upon reading the thread title I was sure it was a malapropism on a macerator toilet.

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Old 02-17-2019, 07:54 PM   #7
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I hope this works out!

I think these were once used on trains - maybe still?

Interested to see how this evolves!

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Old 02-18-2019, 02:43 AM   #8
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That would be epic. Put a little magnesium ribbon into the toilet and have the propane light er up. WOOOOSH! FOOOOM!
All clean.
Not a bad idea! Let me go try.....
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The "Tiny John" is intriguing, may be a little too big for an Interstate, but in larger trailers, it should fit fine. Below is the url:

http://ecojohn.com/ecojohn_tinyjohn.html

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I just can’t wrap my a head around a toilet that is intended to set itself on fire.

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Old 02-18-2019, 06:30 AM   #11
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I just can’t wrap my a head around a toilet that is intended to set itself on fire.
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Yeah, but Maggie, think about it. No more black tank, no more stinky slinky, and a sterile powder you can throw in the trash. Like I said, it's intriguing.

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...I am going to be staying on land I own this summer for three months. .....
This thread presents a good opportunity to develop the kind of quantitative analysis that eludes so many threads.

First, a little detail. Can you tells us, without violating your own privacy:

(1) What state or province your property is in
(2) Which 3 months exactly
(3) How big your tract of land is
(4) How private your tract is
(5) Whether your property is accessed by public roads only, or combination of public and private
(6) How many people will need to use the toilet system(s) - EDIT - I now see family of four. What ages approximately? Older or younger children?
(7) How often you plan to make grocery and energy runs
(8) How far away the grocery and energy sources are (I assume you'll need propane?)
(9) How often you anticipate moving your Interstate for local trips (it wouldn't do well sitting continuously for 3 months without being moved at least a couple of times).
(10) You stated water and electricity sources - is the water potable?

That ought to be a start on scoping out the options.
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Yeah, but Maggie, think about it. No more black tank, no more stinky slinky, and a sterile powder you can throw in the trash. Like I said, it's intriguing.

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PAT - I agree, it is a very interesting idea. I think if OP can figure out the space & clearance requirements so it can fit in an AI small bath, no reason it can't work. I do wonder how much propane it will use, since it will run close to an hour each "flush" cycle. I understand why OP wants it given absence of sewer hookup, so the AI can stay in place and not have to drive it to dump station. But then, it still needs to get propane fill more often. May end up a wash?
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@Alex, exactly. That's why we need more detail to do a proper cost-benefit comparison of the OP's options. Hence my laundry list of questions.
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Yeah, but Maggie, think about it. No more black tank, no more stinky slinky, and a sterile powder you can throw in the trash. Like I said, it's intriguing.

Pat
Yeah, not so much for me.

I am barely dealing with routine propane, here.

Y’all have your fun with incinerating toilets, I will watch from the sidelines.

Simple is me,

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@Alex, exactly. That's why we need more detail to do a proper cost-benefit comparison of the OP's options. Hence my laundry list of questions.
And if he doesn’t want to participate in your engineering feats, IB, he can opt not to.

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I've been looking at the Tiny John for my property. My initial concern is that it is made out of plastic and $3,350.00 seems like a pretty steep price - especially for plastic. I received an email from their customer support and was told that all of the "internals" are steel or stainless steel and they are coming out with an all steel version. Their website leaves a lot to be desired regarding detailed information. I was emailed a YouTube video that shows an actual unit installed in a home.






There was supposed to be an installation manual attached to the email but it wasn't included.


One issue is a 3 inch vent to the outside is required, which may present some challenges in the AS in addition to getting propane to the unit (the rep said the propane tank is typically located outside of the structure).


If I get the installation manual I'll upload that.
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And if he doesn’t want to participate in your engineering feats, IB, he can opt not to.

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The beauty of this is that it's a straight cost-benefit analysis, which may or may not require any engineering at all.

For instance, not to lead the OP witness, but in SOME private landownership circumstances of limited occupancy, the way to go might be a rental porta-pottie. Depending on MULTIPLE factors including (1) geographic location (2) desired frequency of servicing (3) ease of property access, etc. etc., they can be had for as little as $150/month.

And the technology has improved greatly in recent years. The better ones are well-vented and the chemical additives contain some neat stuff to control odors, bacteria, and vermin. How do I know this?? One of my industrial clients is a major developer and supplier of such systems.

I'm not saying that's the obvious choice in this OP's situation - there aren't enough details here to evaluate it. But it certainly would fit some scenarios that involve 3 months in an Interstate.
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$3000 for a toilet that sets itself on fire... I'm still not sure this isn't just an elaborate and well executed joke

The details read as a hilarious amalgamation of toilet and furnace specifications

An... Interesting... Alternative to the composting toilet, but I can see the upsides
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Incinerating toilets are real.

They have been quite common in N. Carolina's Outer Banks... where there are no city utilities and the soil won't perk for a septic tank. Ones that I first saw in the 1980s had one big flaw which should jave been fixed by now.... you would ever allow anyone to use one without prior training. Flushing while still seated - YOWEE! (Tasteless humor: know what burns my a**? A flame about that high.
Well honey you'll never need another bikini wax.
I'll cancel your vasectomy surgery dear...

Do the new ones only ignite when the lid is closed?

Why install, put up a toilet tent and use it. The outhouse without a pit.
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