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Old 02-19-2019, 09:27 AM   #29
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TinyJohn Manual

Received the owner's manual. The price does NOT include shipping, which would probably be pretty significant as well (the rep said they are currently running a President's Day sale, which includes the otherwise added cost of shipping).
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Sorry, here's the manual.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:12 AM   #31
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PAT - Is that for a different model/manufacturer? The ECOJOHN specs show the propane units use 0.14lb. (urine) / 0.35lb. (waste) per cycle. Either way, the AI propane tank (14.55 g / 61 lbs.) would empty out fairly quick with 4 people if some of the other propane appliances also get used
Now we're talkin'. Real come-to-the-Almighty numbers could put this idea to bed quickly.

Someone might say, "Oh but it wouldn't need to be THAT high - sometimes people could just "use the woods" instead of the fiery john.

As an off-grid property owner, trust me on this next part: if all the OP has is one acre, and the OP plans to be there for 3 months, he does NOT want multiple people continually peeing all over the place. Larger acreages, yeah, we might be able to distribute that without discernible impact. But not a small property.

EDIT: I should have also run the costs in that graphic below... making reasonable assumptions, it works out to be about $350 for the propane across the 3-month adventure (plus time and effort to haul it). On top of a $3,000 toilet. Personally, I'd be going for a high-quality rental pottie (a good one, with proper construction, no odors, and a good treatment tank).

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PAT - Is that for a different model/manufacturer? The ECOJOHN specs show the propane units use 0.14lb. (urine) / 0.35lb. (waste) per cycle. Either way, the AI propane tank (14.55 g / 61 lbs.) would empty out fairly quick with 4 people if some of the other propane appliances also get used

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No, same manufacturer, you must have been looking at the SR-5 model. From the EcoJohn website the TinyJohn specs are below.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:10 PM   #33
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No, same manufacturer, you must have been looking at the SR-5 model. From the EcoJohn website the TinyJohn specs are below.
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PAT - yeah, I was looking at SR5/SR12 specs. Did not realize theres separate TinyJohn. From the looks of it, I guess SR series are more for tiny home installs.
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Now we're talkin'. Real come-to-the-Almighty numbers could put this idea to bed quickly.

Someone might say, "Oh but it wouldn't need to be THAT high - sometimes people could just "use the woods" instead of the fiery john.

As an off-grid property owner, trust me on this next part: if all the OP has is one acre, and the OP plans to be there for 3 months, he does NOT want multiple people continually peeing all over the place. Larger acreages, yeah, we might be able to distribute that without discernible impact. But not a small property.

EDIT: I should have also run the costs in that graphic below... making reasonable assumptions, it works out to be about $350 for the propane across the 3-month adventure (plus time and effort to haul it). On top of a $3,000 toilet. Personally, I'd be going for a high-quality rental pottie (a good one, with proper construction, no odors, and a good treatment tank).

Incinerator more appealing because : I donít want septic on my beautiful flood prone land for environmental reasons. Also, I donít want compost toilet for same reason . Iím looking for a way to avoid waste period.
The rent-a potty is a good solution but the costs in my neck of the woods would be a few k per month. At that cost you have to wonder what good is camping/glamping with all this equipment & money!
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Thanks everyone. Who knew waste elimination could take so many forms.
I’ll hope Cinderella comes up with a smaller incin toilet so I could happily give up maserator & it’s space in return for a propane potty!
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Eliminate the need for a maserator and the maserator itself and you have the space & propane power to incin the poop.
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Eliminate the need for a maserator and the maserator itself and you have the space & propane power to incin the poop.
CARPENC - you have lots of folks rooting for you in hopes you can get this to work. It would be a neat option to have this choice. BTW - regarding macerator, unless you are going to a straight 3" standard sewer hose for your grey tank, wouldn't you still need a macerator? Or am I wrong, because technically grey tank should not have any solid waste in it?
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I was seriously considering the TinyJohn for my property - that is until I read the county code. Any incinerating toilet must be approved by the state and the TinyJohn IS NOT approved in Washington state. The only incinerating toilet approved here is the Incinolet - pretty much the same process as the TinyJohn but it only uses electricity, not propane.


I much prefer the look of the TinyJohn, but the Incinlet is about half the price - $1,870.00. I haven't read a lot of the specific specs on it. It's all steel with an option to order it with a plastic "facade". That's for the 120 volt model, there are also 208/240 volt models.



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Correct me if I'm wrong, but codes only apply to permanent installations. Someone could place a temporary asset on a property, and it would not be subject.

We know all about that in flood-prone Texas. Many temporary assets are placed on tracts in order to avoid regulatory subjugation. I'm not saying I have done it - I'm just saying it is done. A lot.

The electrical option is intriguing because the OP mentioned that there is electricity present. That could resolve the propane issue.
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Incinerator more appealing because : I donít want septic on my beautiful flood prone land for environmental reasons. ...
BTW, when you get established this summer, I hope you are able to post a few pics. So far, LB_3 and I are the only Interstate owners we know of who set up on our own private land for extended off-grid stays. On land that was specifically configured for that purpose. Maybe there are more - if so, I'd love to hear about what they do.
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Is this for sale in US? Website makes it look like not available here yet. I would use it though. is it just for solids and not liquids? Would be nice to her right of the black tank and use that real estate for other things. Like batteries or fuel tank etc.
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If you are asking about the Incinolet, it is made in Dallas, TX and is available in the US. I believe all the countries shown are to indicate it's available for sale in those countries as well.
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